Re: birding-aus Jacky Winter

Subject: Re: birding-aus Jacky Winter
From: Peter Woodall <>
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 11:43:42 +1000
At 11:54 5/01/2000 +1100, you wrote:
>Does anyone know the etymology of Jack Winter? Is it named after Mr Jacky
>Winter? Or is the 'Jacky' part named after someone and the 'Winter' some
>reference to season? Or is it some 19th century colloquialism? And thus, if
>one was so silly as to only use capitals for the common names of birds,
>except where those common names comprised otherwise capitalised words, does
>one capitalise Jacky, Winter, both or neither?
>Sean Pywell.
Hi Sean

J.D. MacDonald published a little known book in about 1987, entitled
"The illustrated dictionary of Australian Birds by Common Name" which
gives this sort of info.

For Jacky Winter, he states:

"Given from early days 'jacky', possibly from call note resembling 'jacky-jacky'
but 'winter' is obscure; Vigors and Horsfield recorded in 1827 that 'Mr Caley
informs us that the boys of the colony call it Winter, the reason for which
he does 
not give'"

That all



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