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Subject: Re: [ts-7000] ts-7800 how do I make 4 (at least 2) identical network stacks?
From: Walter Marvin <>
Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 13:24:54 -0700 (PDT)
If you haven't put together an Ethernet stack then your not a pro at this 
stuff. One socket based server does not a pro make. IPTables is very obscure an 
funky, as is Ethernet routing. Specialized stuff.

thanks

Walter
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On Sat, 11/2/13, Jonathan Leslie <> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [ts-7000] ts-7800 how do I make 4 (at least 2) identical network 
stacks?
 To: "" <>
Date: Saturday, November 2, 2013, 12:24 PM
















  



  


    
      
      
       I'm supposed to
 be the pro... :/

From: Walter Marvin
 <>
  To:
 
  Sent:
 Saturday, November 2, 2013 10:53 AM
  Subject: Re:
 [ts-7000] ts-7800 how do I make 4 (at least 2) identical
 network
  stacks?
   

  



  


    
      
      
       If your not real familiar with Ethernet at the
 stack level have a pro do this for you. If

 you want to try it yourself here is a web link to get you
 started. What you need is a Linux

 based custom router that sits beside you Linux
 application.



 
http://www.slideshare.net/networksguy/home-networking-in-linux-iptables-firewall-routing

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 On Sat, 11/2/13, Jonathan Leslie <>
 wrote:



 Subject: Re: [ts-7000] ts-7800 how do I make 4 (at least 2)
 identical network stacks?

  To: ""
 <>

Date: Saturday, November 2, 2013, 6:48 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

   

 

 

 

   

 

 

     

       

       

        Walter, thank you for

  your suggestions,  do you have a link/explanation
 to

  some of these? (aka IPTables, "do raw Ethernet

  (like a sniffer does) and Nat route them "on the

  box" by interface." )If I go over 4 devices
 on my tail

  wagging the dog network, I agree, I will need a router,
 but

  for now I only have to deal with 3 devices, and space is

  paramount.   

  I

  believe when you talk are talking about raw ethernet,
 you

  are referring to something like

   this:http://www.tenouk.com/Module41a.html

 

  I

  actually have done a project already like that with 2

  devices, but it was on a WinSystems epx-380 board with a
 QNX

  OS. It had the ability to make 2 network stacks and 2
 SOCK

  settings.  I'm also exploring how I can expand
 that

  board to 4 SOCK settings. However, I want to switch to

  embedded arm processors: I'm in love with the TS

   product line, and its 1/3 the size and price of the
 epx-380

  board. 

  the

  bottom line is the smaller I can put this together, the

  better I'll be positioned to sell it. The customer has
 a

  size in mind, and I want to come in at half that.

   

 

 

From: Walter Marvin

  <>

   To:

  

   Sent: Friday,

  November 1, 2013 8:48 PM

   Subject: Re:

  [ts-7000] ts-7800 how do I make 4 (at least 2) identical

  network stacks?

    

 

   

 

 

 

   

 

 

     

       

       

        Even better,

 

 

 

  You can use IPTables to masquerade by interface , I
 think

 

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  On Fri, 11/1/13, Jonathan Leslie
 <>

  wrote:

 

 

 

  Subject: Re: [ts-7000] ts-7800 how do I make 4 (at least
 2)

  identical network stacks?

 

   To: ""

  <>

 

Date: Friday, November 1, 2013, 5:32 PM

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

    

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

    

 

  

 

  

 

      

 

        

 

        

 

         Yes Walter, that was

 

   my suggestion as well: a dedicated router per setup,
 but

 

   I've also got a space problem, and was hoping to be

  able

 

   to do the whole thing on the one board.   I've

  got

 

   to fit this in a tight spot under the dash of a

 

   vehicle. 

 

  

 

From: Walter Marvin

 

   <>

 

    To:

 

   

 

   

 

    Sent: Friday,

 

   November 1, 2013 7:58 PM

 

    Subject: Re:

 

   [ts-7000] ts-7800 how do I make 4 (at least 2)
 identical

 

   network stacks?

 

     

 

  

 

    

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

    

 

  

 

  

 

      

 

        

 

        

 

         The easiest way is to add an external router. Nat

 

   route two of the boxes into different IP addresses,
 then

 

   take the other one native on the second Ethernet

  interface.

 

   Theoretically you could do any number of of boxes, if

  you

 

   provide enough cheap Nat routers

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

   thanks

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

   Walter

 

  

 

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   On Fri, 11/1/13, Paul Breneman

 

   <> wrote:

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

   Subject: Re: [ts-7000] ts-7800 how do I make 4 (at
 least

  2)

 

   identical network stacks?

 

  

 

    To: 

 

  

 

Date: Friday, November 1, 2013, 11:38 AM

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

     

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

     

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

       

 

  

 

         

 

  

 

         

 

  

 

          On 11/01/2013 12:18 PM, 

  wrote:

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

    > I have a customer that produces a device where

 

   inside

 

  

 

    it is a network of several devices all with IP

  addresses

 

  

 

    that cannot be changed (for example 10.1.1.101,

 

   10.1.1.102,

 

  

 

    10.1.1.103, and 10.1.1.104 are in the product) and you

 

   plug

 

  

 

    your PC into this device, set your address to

  10.1.1.xxx

 

  

 

    (something not between 101-104) and off you go. My

 

   customer

 

  

 

    wants me to be able to put 3 of these onto a single

 

  

 

    deployment but I'm not allowed to change any IP

 

  

 

    addresses.

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

    >

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

    >

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

    >   I was hoping to to put these three into the

 

   Ts-7800

 

  

 

    and have unique Network stacks for each of them where

 

   one

 

  

 

    network doesn't know about the other ones.   In

  this

 

   way

 

  

 

    I can be running three independent 10.1.1 networks say

 

   on

 

  

 

    eth0,eth1, and eth2.    On the 4th network, eth3,

  (again

 

  

 

    another 10.1.1 network) I could write a C program to

 

   accept

 

  

 

    a message for say 10.1.1.101,  and check a digital

 

  

 

    switch/dip switch bank selector for which of the 3

 

   outbound

 

  

 

    10.1.1 (eth0, eth1, eth2) is to receive the packet.

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

    >

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

    >

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

    >   Does anybody have any idea how I would set up

  such

 

   a

 

  

 

    configuration???  I see in the documentation for the

 

   ts-7800

 

  

 

    they talk about eth0 and eth1,  can I at least set up
 2

 

  

 

    independent 10.1.1 networks on the same ts-7800???

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

    Here is a simple serial and socket terminal program

  that

 

  

 

    might help you

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

    troubleshoot things:  www.CtrlTerm.com

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

    Please let me know if there are problems or questions.

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

       

 

  

 

        

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

       

 

  

 

       

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

     

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

   

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

      

 

       

 

  

 

      

 

      

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

        

 

  

 

      

 

       

 

  

 

      

 

      

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

    

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

 

 

     

      

 

     

     

 

 

 

 

       

 

     

      

 

     

     

 

 

 

 

 

 

   

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



    
     

    
    




      

    
     

    
    






  











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