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[ts-7000] Re: How to clone contents of flash memory

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Subject: [ts-7000] Re: How to clone contents of flash memory
From: "Steve Drake" <>
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 20:21:06 -0600
I have been using the 'dd' method of cloning cards as suggested by Pierre
in his previous message, quoted below. It has worked a few times but has not
been a reliable method so far. I am running Ubuntu 9.04 on my develpment PC
where I am trying to do the card imaging.

The source and destination SD cards are both 2GB in size.

I create the image like this:

   $ sudo dd if=/dev/sde of=2gb-v1.07a2-image.dd
   3962880+0 records in
   3962880+0 records out
   2028994560 bytes (2.0 GB) copied, 1964.36 s, 1.0 MB/s

I frequently (>50%) get an error when I try to write the image to an SD
card:

   $ sudo dd if=2gb-v1.07a2-image.dd of=/dev/sde
   dd: writing to `/dev/sde': No space left on device
   3948545+0 records in
   3948544+0 records out
   2021654528 bytes (2.0 GB) copied, 5293.45 s, 382 kB/s

I also tried writing the image to the SD card with pcopy, and got similar
results:

   $ sudo pcopy 2gb-v1.07a1-image.dd /dev/sde
   Copying from 2gb-v1.07a1-image.dd to /dev/sde (start in 3 seconds)...
   Copied: 1927 MB (1 MB/sec)     -
   pcopy: /dev/sde: Error: Write of 1048576 bytes failed at 2021654528: No
space left on device

Note that it runs a long time before it fails (an hour or two on my USB 1.0
PC).

How can there not be enough space on the destination drive? Is it common for
SD cards to have bad blocks and would that be causing my trouble?

I (also) tried making sure any/all partitions were deleted first from the
target SD card with fdisk before starting the write operation to the SD
card.
That didn't help.

I tried again to write the image to the card, with the 'direct' flag this
time:
   $ sudo dd if=2gb-v1.07a2-image.dd of=/dev/sde oflag=direct

But I lost patience after about 3 hours and aborted the command (and saw
that
it reported that it was only about 1/2 way done).

In many dd command examples that I've looked at, the conv=notrunc,noerror
options are used. According to 'man' this tells dd to not truncate the
output
file and not to stop on errors. But I don't know exactly what that means. So
I decided to give it a try, but still got an error:
   $ sudo dd if=2gb-v1.07a2-image.dd of=/dev/sde conv=notrunc,noerror
   dd: writing to `/dev/sde': No space left on device
   3948545+0 records in
   3948544+0 records out
   2021654528 bytes (2.0 GB) copied, 5129.66 s, 394 kB/s

Now, even though I get errors, sometimes the SD card seems to boot and run
okay in the TS-7350, but I am not sure I trust it. I've had cases where it
did not boot/run okay.

I just ran the same command on another SD card that is the same brand (PNY)
and size (2GB), and this time no errors:

   $ sudo dd if=2gb-v1.07a2-image.dd of=/dev/sde conv=notrunc,noerror
   3962880+0 records in
   3962880+0 records out
   2028994560 bytes (2.0 GB) copied, 5082.2 s, 399 kB/s

What's going on? I'm running out of ideas so I am posting this to the forum,
hoping someone has a suggestion. Thanks!

Steve

> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> 4b. Re: How to clone contents of flash memory
> Posted by: "pierrot lafouine" 
> pierrotlafouine
> Sat Nov 7, 2009 3:11 pm (PST)
>
> Take the FLASh out of the TS and put it on a SD card reader on your Linux
> PC.
> In console write commands :
> dmesg | tail
>
> You should see someting like this :
> [188307.934633] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
> [188307.935617] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] 3842048 512-byte hardware sectors (1967
> MB)
> [188307.936240] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
> [188307.936242] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 4b 00 00 08
> [188307.936244] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through
> [188307.936247] sdb: sdb1 sdb2
> In this specific case SD card reader is mounted on sdb (see [sdb])
>
> Then copy your flash to a file :
> dd if=/dev/sdb of=/yourpath/yourfilename.dd
>
> To copy yourfilename.dd to new flash (must be same size):
> dd if=/yourpath/yourfilename.dd of=/dev/sdb
>
> Just be careful with syntax and with dd commands, you can make big mess.
> Cheers!
>
> Pierre
>
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > To: 
> > From: 
> > Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2009 22:48:54 +0000
> > Subject: [ts-7000] Re: How to clone contents of flash memory
> >
> > Ok, this posting appeared a long time ago, but it looks like nobody
> > answered
> > it so far.
> >
> > I have the same problem: One TS-7800 was set up with a lot of effort,
> > and now
> > I want to copy the whole flash memory to ten more TS-7800's as simple
> > and
> > less error prone as possible.
> >
> > Maybe via the SD-card or an USB-stick or even via SSH, I don't care, but
> > what
> > is the way to create several clones of one embeddedARM?
> >
> > Thanks a lot
> >
> > Achim
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > --- In  Janne Mäntyharju <>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > Is it possible to make image of whole flash memory contents using
> > > redboot (kernel + root image)? How to write image back to new device?
> > > I have one prototype of device using TS-7250 ready and I'm searching
> > > for
> > > easiest way to clone contents of it.
> > >
> > > Thanks for reply!
> > >



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