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Subject: [ts-7000] Re: Thoughts on TS-7500...
From: "naturalwatt" <>
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 19:16:27 -0000
--- In  "PeterElliot" <> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> 
> A Question to those of you with a TS-7500. How do you find it? I'm looking to 
> use one in an industrial application, and was wondering how the people who 
> had them were getting on with them.
> 
> I'm looking to use it as a remote device reporting back to a TS-TPC-7390 via 
> Ethernet.
> 
> I currently compile for the 7300 and 7390 via gcc using the Cygwin command 
> line. Is this possible with the 7500?

I don't see why not.  You could almost certainly use the same toolchain.  As I 
say below, it's a 2.6.24 kernel, gcc 4.3, libc 2.7.

> 
> Can the USB device port be used for the console?


Not for the kernel console.  You could modify the fastboot environment to load 
USB modules and run a getty on it, but you wouldn't get console messages I 
don't think.

> 
> Regards,
> 
> PJE
>

I've got one and it's giving me some grief.  We were using the TS7250 on stock 
kernel/busybox and were attracted to the TS7500 for its potentially lower 
price.  Unfortunately, with the new enclosure TS-ENC750, and daughter board 
TS752A which provides a serial port, DIO and 3 mains relays, the price is more 
than the TS7250 + TS-ENC720.  But if we can do without the enclosure and 
daughter board, it will be cheaper.

The available documentation and software is non-existent. I am going to have a 
go at TS once I have got all my questions together.

The thing giving me most grief is the MicroSD card.  I have a cheap/crappy USB 
to MicroSD reader that just doesn't work, so i bought the MicroSD card and 
reader from TS for $55, and they didn't ship the USB reader.  Their mistake, 
they admit, which they are rectifying, but it takes a week or two for stuff to 
arrive from the states to the UK.

I can at least boot the MicroSD card now.  The default busybox fastboot 
environment doesn't have a working telnetd, so the only access to the card was 
over the serial port. 

The FAT32 partition on the 2GB Microsd card is described as containing 
"out-of-the-box ECLIPSE IDE with debugging, ARM tool chain, Debian Linux 
filesystem, documentation and further binaries/utilities"

This is misleading.  The ARM tool chain supplied is 
crosstool-linux-gcc-3.3.4-glibc-2.3.2-0.28rc39.tar.bz2 which I doubt very much 
was used to build the supplied system, which is a 2.6.24 kernel with gcc 4.3 
and libc 2.7.

There are several directories on the filesystem which look tempting, for  
example samples, sources, docs, distributions, binaries.  Until you find they 
are empty.

The FTP directory for the TS7500 is almost empty as well.

I will have to move the TS7500 off my critical path and wait for TS to provide 
documentation and software.

As I said, when I have had a bit more time to play around, I'll be expecting 
direct support from TS on these issues.  If they had released more 
documentation and software, they might receive rather less support queries.

Oh yes, the power supply is a bit problematic.  Without the enclosure and 
TS752A support board, the only way to get power in is via the USB Device 
connector, which is a standard USB B socket.  But I can't find a power supply 
with this socket - there are ones with mini USB, but not plain old clunky B 
USB.    Buying proper USB cables and cutting them up is a waste of money and 
will look like a bodge.


Martin






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