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[ts-7000] Re: TS7400 serial ports - 5V or 3.3V?

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Subject: [ts-7000] Re: TS7400 serial ports - 5V or 3.3V?
From: "Noel Diviney" <>
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 21:58:39 -0000
--- In  Jason Stahls <> wrote:
>
> Doug Chapman wrote:
> > Sending 3.3v to the 5v device is not a problem as that is enough 
to trigger the logic on the 5v device.  The problem is the 5V device 
sending a signal to the 3.3v TX7400.  I am wondering if for 5V -> 
3.3V if just adding a current limiting resistor would suffice in 
keeping the board safe?
> 
> 
> Toss a couple transistors at the problem. From TX 3.3v to RX 5v use 
a 
> NPN with the emitter to ground, collector to 5v RX tied high via a 
> resistor to5v.  For TX 5v to RX 3.3v do the same just tie the 
resistor 
> to 3.3v instead of 5v.  You can then dump that through a inverting 
> buffer or another transistor setup to invert again as the first 
> transistor will invert your data.
> 
> <Caution, bad ASCII art to follow>
>                                        +5v
>                                         |
>                                         \
>                                         / R4
>                  +5v                    \
>                   |                     /
>                   \                     |--------------- RX
>                   / R2                  |
>                   \                  | / C
>                   /         R3     B |/
>                   |-------/\/\/\-----|
>                   |                  |\
>                | / C                 | \ E
>        R1    B |/                      |
> TX --/\/\/\- --|                      GND
>                |\
>                | \ E
>                  |
>                 GND
> 
> I'm not 100% sure of the resistor values as they depend on the 
> transistor your using (and I'm too tired right now to figure them 
out 
> anyways)  R4 should be good around 4.7ish K, I think R1/R3 would be 
ok 
> at 10-12k.  YMMV, don't blame me if you don't confirm my #'s and 
blow 
> something up :)
> 
> Jason Stahls
>

Hi,

Another solution is to use the new 74lvc series logic. This runs off 
3.3v but all inputs are 5.5v tolerant. I believe they are designed 
specifically for this very purpose.

see http://www-origin.nxp.com/pip/74LVC1G08_7.html

Cheers Noel Diviney.


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