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Subject: [ts-7000] how hard would it be to have mavcrunch support all throughout debian arm, upstream?
From: Dustin Harriman <>
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2006 13:45:54 -0400 (EDT)
Hi all,

First of all, please pardon my toolchain ignorance in
advance.

I'm wondering how hard it would be to just have
Maverickcrunch support compiled into all debian
packages downloaded from debian mirrors.  In other
words, what would need to be done differently upstream
at Debian?  What are the technical, and social
hurdles?

Would debian need to have another arch supported in
addition to arm, called say "arm-mavcrunch"?  Or could
mavrunch support just be compiled into all existing
arm packages, and arm cpus out there who don't support
mavcrunch just not use it and automagically fall back
on floating point emulation?

Is it true that the gnu toolchain isn't mature enough
to have Maverickcrunch work, in addition to other
modern features like threads and shared libraries?

The reason I ask is that I'm finding some unexpected
major slowness on my ts-7300.  The big example is when
I "apt-get install" software.  Let's say I want to
install icewm and it's suggested packages.  This is
about an 8 MB download, 35 MB once unpacked.  Not
including download time, the installation of those
packages takes over 30 minutes!  Most of the time is
spent by the process "dpkg --unpack (then a list of
all the deb files that have been downloaded)".  This
process pegs the cpu at 100% the whole time.  I
imagine this unpacking is floating-point intensive. 
BTW, I don't think the slow disk IO to the SD card is
to blame, as I can get slightly over 1 MB/sec when I
measure throughput with "hdparm -t".

Save me, mavcrunch!  Where are you when I need you! 
:)

I'm trying to get an idea of the size of the obstacles
in the way to my ts-7300 behaving like I'd expect a
200 MHz should, wrt to floating point operations.  The
ability to "apt-get install" software from a huge
collection of debian software is basically the main
reason I bought this ts-7300 in the first place.

Cheers,

Dustin.

Dustin Harriman

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