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Subject: [Nature Recordists] Digest Number 6944
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Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2018 01:14:28 +0000
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Topics in this digest:

1a. Re: Help with underwater identification please    
    From:  m_pesente
1b. Re: Help with underwater identification please    
    From: 303
1c. Re: Help with underwater identification please    
    From: Richard Ranft
1d. Re: Help with underwater identification please    
    From: 303
1e. Re: Help with underwater identification please    
    From: Bernie Krause
1f. Re: Help with underwater identification please    
    From: Richard Ranft
1g. Re: Help with underwater identification please    
    From: Bernie Krause


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1a. Re: Help with underwater identification please
    Posted by:   m_pesente
    Date: Sat Feb 3, 2018 11:05 pm ((PST))

The sound you are referring here http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/13958630 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/13958630, is the sound I recorded here in Italy and 
I sent you on the previous post

https://soundcloud.com/marco- pesente/micronecta-sp-lesser- water 
https://soundcloud.com/marco-pesente/micronecta-sp-lesser-water The other sound 
I posted is refered to a water-boatman (Corixa punctata) 
https://soundcloud.com/marco- pesente/corixa-punctata-sound 
https://soundcloud.com/marco-pesente/corixa-punctata-sound



Marco





---In  <> wrote :



 Thanks Bernie, is this what you’re talking about?  
http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/13958630 http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/13958630

 



 

 On 3 Feb 2018, at 22:16, Bernie Krause   
[naturerecordists] < 
> wrote:



 Mostly, it sounds like common species of what, in English, are called 
water-boatmen (Corixidae). These can be found everywhere there is fresh water 
and decaying floral debris in vernal pools, in shallow water by ponds and 
lakeside, and even by the curb after a spring or summer rain, etc. 

 



 We first encountered these signatures in late March, 1984, at Mono Lake just 
east of the Sierra Nevada Mountains along the Eastern border of California 
while recording the Great Basin spadefoot toad (Spea intermontana) in a study 
for the University of California in Santa Cruz led by the late Ken Norris (who 
identified how dolphins generate and receive echolocation signals). We were 
recording to see if the tadpoles generated sound (they do), and if the 
vocalizations of the adults carried in water as well as air (they do). At the 
same time, we picked up these odd scraping sounds (water-boatmen) but couldn’t 
identify them, at first. But after filling some buckets with water and mud from 
the pond, and sifting through the material, we were left with the water-boatmen 
and were able to record them separately, thus figuring out the source.

 



 Bernie 

 

 Wild Sanctuary

POB 536

Glen Ellen, CA 95442

707-327-6771

http://www.wildsanctuary.com http://www..wildsanctuary.com/

 

SKYPE: WildSanctuary

 FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/BernieKrauseAuthor 
http://www.facebook.com/BernieKrauseAuthor

TED Global talk: 
https://www.ted.com/talks/bernie_krause_the_voice_of_the_natural_world?language=en
 
https://www.ted.com/talks/bernie_krause_the_voice_of_the_natural_world?language=en









 

 On Feb 3, 2018, at 1:20 AM,   
[naturerecordists] < 
> wrote:



 



Below the links to soundcloud for two of my underwater recordings from Italy.

Sounds are similar to that of your recording, but surely emitted by different 
species of small aquatic insects.



Marco



 https://soundcloud.com/marco- pesente/corixa-punctata-sound 
https://soundcloud.com/marco-pesente/corixa-punctata-sound

 https://soundcloud.com/marco- pesente/micronecta-sp-lesser- water 
https://soundcloud.com/marco-pesente/micronecta-sp-lesser-water





 











 





 











 









  





Messages in this topic (14)
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1b. Re: Help with underwater identification please
    Posted by: "303"  quies_still
    Date: Sat Feb 3, 2018 11:11 pm ((PST))

Thanks Marco. Much appreciated.

> On 4 Feb 2018, at 15:05,  [naturerecordists] 
> <> wrote:
> 
> The sound you are referring here http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/13958630 
> <http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/13958630>, is the sound I recorded here in Italy 
> and I sent you on the previous post
> https://soundcloud.com/marco- pesente/micronecta-sp-lesser- water 
> <https://soundcloud.com/marco-pesente/micronecta-sp-lesser-water>
> The other sound I posted is refered to a water-boatman (Corixa punctata) 
> https://soundcloud.com/marco- pesente/corixa-punctata-sound 
> <https://soundcloud.com/marco-pesente/corixa-punctata-sound>
> 
> Marco
> 
> 
> ---In  
> <>, <> wrote :
> 
> Thanks Bernie, is this what you’re talking about? 
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/13958630 <http://www.bbc.co.uk/nature/13958630>
> 
> 
>> On 3 Feb 2018, at 22:16, Bernie Krause  <> 
>> [naturerecordists] < 
>> <>> wrote:
>> 
>> Mostly, it sounds like common species of what, in English, are called 
>> water-boatmen (Corixidae). These can be found everywhere there is fresh 
>> water and decaying floral debris in vernal pools, in shallow water by ponds 
>> and lakeside, and even by the curb after a spring or summer rain, etc. 
>> 
>> 
>> We first encountered these signatures in late March, 1984, at Mono Lake just 
>> east of the Sierra Nevada Mountains along the Eastern border of California 
>> while recording the Great Basin spadefoot toad (Spea intermontana) in a 
>> study for the University of California in Santa Cruz led by the late Ken 
>> Norris (who identified how dolphins generate and receive echolocation 
>> signals). We were recording to see if the tadpoles generated sound (they 
>> do), and if the vocalizations of the adults carried in water as well as air 
>> (they do). At the same time, we picked up these odd scraping sounds 
>> (water-boatmen) but couldn’t identify them, at first. But after filling some 
>> buckets with water and mud from the pond, and sifting through the material, 
>> we were left with the water-boatmen and were able to record them separately, 
>> thus figuring out the source.
>> 
>> Bernie 
>> 
>> Wild Sanctuary
>> POB 536
>> Glen Ellen, CA 95442
>> 707-327-6771
>> http://www.wildsanctuary.com <http://www..wildsanctuary.com/>
>>  <>
>> SKYPE: WildSanctuary
>> FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/BernieKrauseAuthor 
>> <http://www.facebook.com/BernieKrauseAuthor>
>> TED Global talk: 
>> https://www.ted.com/talks/bernie_krause_the_voice_of_the_natural_world?language=en
>>  
>> <https://www.ted.com/talks/bernie_krause_the_voice_of_the_natural_world?language=en>
>> 
>>> On Feb 3, 2018, at 1:20 AM,  <> 
>>> [naturerecordists] < 
>>> <>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Below the links to soundcloud for two of my underwater recordings from 
>>> Italy.
>>> Sounds are similar to that of your recording, but surely emitted by 
>>> different species of small aquatic insects.
>>> 
>>> Marco
>>> 
>>> https://soundcloud.com/marco- pesente/corixa-punctata-sound 
>>> <https://soundcloud.com/marco-pesente/corixa-punctata-sound>
>>> https://soundcloud.com/marco- pesente/micronecta-sp-lesser- water 
>>> <https://soundcloud.com/marco-pesente/micronecta-sp-lesser-water>
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 






Messages in this topic (14)
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1c. Re: Help with underwater identification please
    Posted by: "Richard Ranft"  

    Date: Sun Feb 4, 2018 2:52 am ((PST))

Here's a water boatman from London, UK, that I heard in the wild then recorded 
in captivity, in 1984. It was identified by an expert from our Natural History 
Museum. I kept and bred it in captivity and it only ever sang with this rhythm
https://sounds.bl.uk/Environment/Listen-to-Nature/022M-LISTNAT00251-0001V0
Other species of course have their own distinct sound signatures.
Best wishes
Richard



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