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Topics in this digest:
1a. Re: beginner equipment advice needed
From: umashankar
1b. Re: beginner equipment advice needed
From: inetd_conf
1c. Re: beginner equipment advice needed
From: zztijn
2a. Re: Wiring up EM172 capsules
From: Andrew Perkin
3. Some ways to use natural soundscapes for habitat evaluation
From: Bernie Krause
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1a. Re: beginner equipment advice needed
Posted by: "umashankar" umashanks
Date: Thu Nov 9, 2017 5:35 pm ((PST))
As the designer and now the maker of the Brahma-in-Zoom modification, I wish to
tell you that it is now much cheaper, at 650 USD + shipping. I am also building
a new version with 25 mm microphone capsules mounted on the head of the Zoom,
instead of inside, which should be more attractive for nature recordings.
There is a facebook page for the microphone at
https://www.facebook.com/ambisonics/
There is a also a user group for those who have the Brahma or want to explore
low cos ambisonics.
umashankar
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From: Emanuele Costantini [naturerecordists]
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 2:41 AM
To:
Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] beginner equipment advice needed
Hello Beth,
I have (also) a Zoom H2N, the black one, with the Brahma mod, packed neatly in
a small back pack I bring anywhere when travelling. On its own it can give me a
360˚ recording, ideal for atmos tracks.
I find that recorder surprisingly good with a bearable amount of BG noise.
Through its minijack input I can also feed a pair of DPA 4061 (via PIP) and a
couple of jez's contact mics or a couple of (Jez's) hydrophones to extend the
possibilities and stereo techniques with which I can achieve a moltitude of
different results with such a little machine.
As you already find out, handling noise and wind are the main issues to get
through. I ended up modding a commercial Rycote WS10 blimp to fit the recorder
fully in, so no wind or my hand will ever touch it and usually with the
addiction of a gorilla tripod I can attach it to anything without the need of a
tripod. Knowing that I am a keen photographer as well I have to have a camera
tripod with me anyway, so I bought an extra plate for the sound rig as well.
The tripod is a Manfrotto BeFree.
As you can see in my traveller kit the most expensive piece is the blimp and
all together fits in the budget you have in mind. My ultra expensive kit rests
back home when I am on holidays and I don't miss it that much with my actual
set up. Obviously the BG noise is a bit more than my 788T or 552 or F8 but is
still bearable and perfectly useable also on very quiet environments, if you
think that the H2N price is almost nothing.
Make sure your H2N is the newest generation, as they improved the electronics
on all their recorders after the F8 came out.
Weight is a main concern for me as well because of my unknown back issues that
4 years ago gave me a nice full year stuck in bed. All this rig (camera and
lens included) fits perfeclty in a Mafrotto Advanced Travel Rucksack.
Battery consumption is astonishing. When I got it first I was travelling with
external camera lithium batteries but then I tried AAs and battery life is
quite long. Usually I bring a couple of sets of receargeables but using lithium
AAs I can forget to change batteries for few days.
Emanuele.
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1b. Re: beginner equipment advice needed
Posted by: inetd_conf
Date: Thu Nov 9, 2017 7:57 pm ((PST))
I haven't used the Telinga lavaliers but I've got a set of Clippy EM-172
lavaliers. They're easy enough to build as PiP mics, which will save battery
over building them to use phantom power.
I can't remember who it was (and I'm going to laugh if it's someone in this
group!) but a while back I saw a picture of someone who had clipped some DPA
4060 mics to their shoulders for doing forest walks. It offers nice spatial
separation, and your head acts as a reasonable baffle. DPAs are outside your
budget, but the same trick should work fine for either the Telinga mics or the
Clippys. (I've tested the idea and it works fine.)
One nice thing about starting with PiP mics is that you can use them with your
H2N now. Even though it'll still be noisy, it gives you the opportunity to work
through how you want to mount them, where to attach the recorder to your
backpack for best access, etc. When you replace your recorder, the mics can
plug into the new one as well.
Best of luck!
Tom
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1c. Re: beginner equipment advice needed
Posted by: zztijn
Date: Fri Nov 10, 2017 2:49 am ((PST))
HI Beth,
if you don't need phantom or xlr inputs, a sony pcm D-100 might be your best
bet. Get a rycote for it and a small gorrillapod and you're ready to go. You
could always also get some pip binaural / clippy microphones to add to the set.
De D-100 sounds really good for being internal microphones.
and for the portability / mobility factor: if you can still find one, the sony
pcm m10 is a fantastic piece of kit. great battery life, sturdy and great
internal mics and a good pip input for binaurals and the like (I use the luhd
binaurals, they're great and cheap). Unfortunately and unexplicably, sony has
discontinued it's pcm m10. And I know of no pocket sized recorder which would
even remotely be as good as this one.
if you do need xlr inputs and phantom: check out the brick sized models
mentioned above, and also the Roland R26, and pherhaps the new tascam DR-100
mkIII. but I don't know too much about these. The Olympus LS-100 is pretty
good, but it's battery life sucks unfortunately.
happy recording!
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I haven't used the Telinga lavaliers but I've got a set of Clippy EM-172
lavaliers. They're easy enough to build as PiP mics, which will save battery
over building them to use phantom power.
I can't remember who it was (and I'm going to laugh if it's someone in this
group!) but a while back I saw a picture of someone who had clipped some DPA
4060 mics to their shoulders for doing forest walks. It offers nice spatial
separation, and your head acts as a reasonable baffle. DPAs are outside your
budget, but the same trick should work fine for either the Telinga mics or the
Clippys. (I've tested the idea and it works fine.)
One nice thing about starting with PiP mics is that you can use them with your
H2N now. Even though it'll still be noisy, it gives you the opportunity to work
through how you want to mount them, where to attach the recorder to your
backpack for best access, etc. When you replace your recorder, the mics can
plug into the new one as well.
Best of luck!
Tom
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2a. Re: Wiring up EM172 capsules
Posted by: "Andrew Perkin" bwanakomba
Date: Fri Nov 10, 2017 2:04 pm ((PST))
I just ordered a pair from micboosters. Great quality and service with
cables as per your specifications. Some recordings made with them can be
found on: https://soundcloud.com/bwanakomba-1. I having great fun with
these mics. I feel l'iberated' having used mono shotgun mics for so long.
Regards
Andrew Perkin
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3. Some ways to use natural soundscapes for habitat evaluation
Posted by: "Bernie Krause" bigchirp1
Date: Fri Nov 10, 2017 3:24 pm ((PST))
Thought this link would be of interest to the recording community.
https://ideas.ted.com/listen-to-the-haunting-impact-that-humans-have-had-on-the-natural-world/
<https://ideas.ted.com/listen-to-the-haunting-impact-that-humans-have-had-on-the-natural-world/>
Bernie Krause
Wild Sanctuary
POB 536
Glen Ellen, CA 95442
707-327-6771
http://www.wildsanctuary.com
SKYPE: WildSanctuary
FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/BernieKrauseAuthor
TED Global talk:
https://www.ted.com/talks/bernie_krause_the_voice_of_the_natural_world?language=en
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"While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Krause.
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