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Subject: 2. Re: Stereo mic - Ocean waves
From: "Bernie Krause" bigchirp1
Date: Sat Mar 25, 2017 10:18 am ((PDT))
Thanks, Ray. It is a lovely spot.

Bernie

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> On Mar 25, 2017, at 9:50 AM, Ray Mansell  [naturerec=
ordists] <> wrote:
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> Very nice. We were there a couple of years ago visiting friends, and whil=
e listening to your recording I was looking back at the photographs we took=
 on that very same beach :-)
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> Ray
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> On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 9:16 PM, Bernie Krause  <m=
ailto:>[naturerecordists] <=
ups.com <>> wrote:
> Here=92s a segment recorded at the N. Sea, Aldeburgh, in the UK. Recorder=
 LS10. Pre-amp: SD MixPre. Mics: DPA 4060s mounted on my shoulder. A decent=
 description of wave recording can also be found in my new book, Wild Sound=
scapes: Discovering the Voice of the Natural World, Pgs 172-172. Yale Univ =
Press, 2016.
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> https://soundcloud.com/wildsanctuary/n-sea-waves-uk <https://soundcloud.c=
om/wildsanctuary/n-sea-waves-uk>
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> Bernie
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> Wild Sanctuary
> POB 536
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> http://www.wildsanctuary.com <http://www.wildsanctuary.com/>
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> SKYPE: WildSanctuary
> FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/BernieKrauseAuthor <http://www.facebook=
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> TED Global talk: https://www.ted.com/talks/bernie_krause_the_voice_of_the=
_natural_world?language=3Den <https://www.ted.com/talks/bernie_krause_the_v=
oice_of_the_natural_world?language=3Den>
>> On Mar 24, 2017, at 5:49 PM,  <=
aii.rr.com> [naturerecordists] < <na=
>> wrote:
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>> Gordon Hempton's web site and book are really good references for record=
ing water. Here's a link to the part of his web page discussing waves:
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>> http://blog.quietplanet.com/how-to-record-waves/ <http://blog.quietplane=
t.com/how-to-record-waves/>
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>> It's possible to record big wave action without all the hissy top-end, b=
ut it requires finding just the right beach. If there's an offshore reef, o=
r if the beach is relatively shallow, waves tend to break farther out or br=
eak far out and then closer in. Either way the distant waves or multi-break=
 waves create a lot of background hiss.
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>> All of which would be beside the point, except that you can control that=
 hiss to some degree with your microphone setup. An SASS creates a wonderfu=
l sense of space, but I haven't found a way to keep it from picking up dist=
ant waves except by choosing a beach that only has a close break. You can e=
liminate some of the background hiss of distant waves by using a more direc=
tional microphone and pointing it down, but you lose some of the sense of s=
pace when you do. But I'm getting off topic.
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>> To go back to the question you asked about stereo enhancing what you lik=
e, Ross's recording is a really good example of what an SASS does with wave=
 action. (I love pebble beaches, Ross, and that was beautiful to listen to.=
) Last year or so I recorded using a similar setup (SASS with single capsul=
es) at a sand beach that had an uneven break - waves breaking left to right=
, right to left, etc. I think the recording loses a lot when listened to in=
 mono. (Good point about just dropping one of the channels, Vicki!)
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>> https://soundcloud.com/tnbenedict/kua-bay-summer-waves <https://soundclo=
ud.com/tnbenedict/kua-bay-summer-waves>
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>> In terms of portability, an SASS is going to be bigger than a single X-Y=
 or M-S microphone. It comes down to a question of which stereo mic setup g=
ives you the soundscape you're after, and what compromises you're willing t=
o make to get the sound you want.
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>> Tom
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sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Krause.



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