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Re: mid side on a shoestring

Subject: Re: mid side on a shoestring
From: "Gregory O'Drobinak" gmo_dunes=
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Date: Tue Mar 7, 2017 3:23 pm ((PST))

The spec sheet alludes to a self noise of 23 dB(A).
This noise is about 10 dB higher than what is required for quiet nature rec=
ording and about 6 dB higher than what one could get by with in most lively=
 nature areas.
So my guess is that it will be too noisy for practical use.It's still not s=
o cheap and you will still need a good, low self-noise cardiod mic for the =
center channel.
If you can do with an alternative to MS, try an Audi0 Technica BP4025 at $6=
Message: 49.
Subject: It's self-noise is <=3D 14 dBA. I've used it and it's a great mic. h
The are also many folks that built boundary arrays using low self-noise omn=
i mics that give a much better sense of space. The total cost can range fro=
m about $75 to $750, depending on the mic chosen and the construction of th=
e boundary.
Also, check this newsgroup post list as believe there was someone that made=
 their own MS mic array using inexpensive Primo mic capsules.I'm not sure w=
hat the noise level is, though.

All the best,Gregory

From: "James Rigby  [naturerecordists]" <naturere=
>
 To: "" <>=

 Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 2:53 PM
 Subject: [Nature Recordists] mid side on a shoestring
  
=A0   Hi all,
I am a newcomer to the recording world and got into it via birds here in Mi=
ssissippi. So, up to now I've mostly been recording bird sounds with a para=
bolic reflector and omnidirectional microphone. But I'm increasingly intere=
sted in soundscapes. I'd like to experiment with a mid side setup and I'm w=
ondering about microphone choices on a budget.=A0
Message: 1. 
Subject: In particular does anyone have recommendations for the best bang for 
you=
r buck for the side microphone? I'd like to get an MKH-30, but I think it's=
 outside my price range right now. Has anyone used a Shure Beta 181-Bi for =
field recording? Or am I on the wrong track?=A02. What about mid side setup=
s in a single housing, e.g., a stereo shotgun microphone. Do these work jus=
t as well?
Thanks in! advance for any assistance,
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