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Re: I need some help picking the right omni

Subject: Re: I need some help picking the right omni
From: "emil klotzsch" onomatopoetik
Date: Fri Jan 15, 2016 5:47 am ((PST))
we have 7 x 8020, and some 8040 and 8050s.
its true, that they seem that have a different noise in the ultrasonic rang=
e.
the thing is, that if you record stuff that is very subtle or low, like amb=
ience recordings, you will have the noise there.
but if you record sound effects, or city ambiences for example, you will ha=
ve such a good level of sound that you don=B4t have a problem with the hiss=
 in the ultrasonic range.
even when recordings cicadas you will not have problems there, if they are =
loud enough..
we usually pitch things down, so we are aware of this fact.



> Am 15.01.2016 um 12:04 schrieb 'Tim Bartlett'  =
[naturerecordists] <>:
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> Dan - It would be interesting to know whether you (or anyone else) notice=
 any noise problems with the high frequencies on the 8020=92s?
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> We have been using the 8040=92s and also have an 800 and have noticed tha=
t all are affected by noise problems in the ultrasound range. So yes, they =
do pick up sounds at higher frequencies but this appears to be largely beca=
use the signal (and noise) is artificially boosted above 20khz. The problem=
 is not our mics as we have tested various versions.
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> This became most apparent for us when pitching recordings down by an octa=
ve for sound design purposes. Other mics remain quiet, but do this with an =
8040 and it is noticeably hissy and noisy (as you are pitching the noisy ul=
trasound range into audible range). We wonder if the 8020=92s do the same?=

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> > At this point I have my eyes on the Schoeps MK2s and the Sennheiser MKH=
8020's, both matched pairs. THe MK2s are only 1dB louder but the Sennheiser=
s are more resistant to moist conditions and are more portable friendly due=
 to their smaller size. The thing is I can save about $850 as I have a pair=
 of Schoeps CMC 5U mic bodies, so I would only need to buy the MK2 capsules=
. Is it worth the extra $850 for the reasons mentioned? Is there more info =
on the 8020s that outweigh the MK2s that will justify the extra cash I migh=
t need to spend? Are there another omnis out there that match the audio qua=
lity of these mics that I could look into? I'm willing to spend up to $3k.
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> The motion picture recordists I=92ve worked with choose Schoeps for the b=
est sound, but carry Sennheiser MKH-series for humid situations.
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> I use MKH 8020s for my surround recordings, because I have the mics out a=
ll night and humidity is expected. They are great. Another advantage of the=
 8020s is that they go well above the audible bandwidth. There are bats and=
 insects up there.
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> -Dan
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