Charles, it would be a valuable resource if you could make notes about your=
evaluations of those programs, and post a summary here. One can spend many=
hours evaluating programs that start out promising but turn out to have a =
flaw that means they aren't suitable, so it's good if one can have advance =
warning about such things.
I can confirm that Acousmographe is free. The author (or authors?) is Frenc=
h, but there is an English version. I wasn't able to find an English manual=
though.
Triton is one that I didn't come across when I was evaluating programs. I j=
ust had a quick look at the manual (from http://cetus.ucsd.edu/technologies=
_Software.html), but I see no mention at all of adding annotations. The man=
ual is for v1.64 while the software is up to v1.80, so perhaps the annotati=
on capability was added after that version. It seems to be highly suited to=
dealing with extremely long recordings, so I'm really interested to hear h=
ow you go with this one.
One thing I think one needs to be very cautious of when evaluating programs=
like these if you intend to commit a lot of time to analysing data with th=
em, is future support. I suspect a lot of programs like these start their l=
ife as a postgrad student project, and many end their life there. They may =
do 99% of what you want very well, but when the times comes to contact the =
author for advice or to do something about a missing feature or a serious b=
ug, they cannot be found and no one at that institution is interested in or=
capable of helping. Some have support forums, others have nothing. Some su=
pport forums are very active, others have had no postings for years.
It's well worth torture testing a program before committing to it, just in =
case it can't do something you need.
Take care to keep a backup of the installation files, as you may find when =
you go to install on a new computer that they're no longer available. It mi=
ght also be worth keeping an archive of previous versions of installation f=
iles, just in case a new release introduces new bugs.
Peter Shute
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> Subject: [Nature Recordists] Re: [Bioacoustic-monitoring]
> annotation/labeling of wav files
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>
>
> dear all thanks for all the valuable input you gave me.
> so far this is the list of program that have been proposed:
>
> Sonic Visualizer, free, multiplatform
> Acousmograph, free?, multiplatform
> Praat, free, multiplatform
> Raven, multiplatform
> Audition, mac/win (free only for win, old version but still
> great) AmadeusPro, multiplatform XBAT, for matlab Triton /
> Triton Logger, for matlab Audacity, free, multi platform
>
> I have to work on soundscapes and thus I need to label
> multiple, sometime overlapping, frequency-time regions of the
> spectrogram.
> I'll test all these for their labeling/annotation capability
> and I'll post my results.
>
> thanks again
> Gianni
>
> 2014-09-29 19:10 GMT+02:00 Charles S. Henry <>:
>
>
> Hi Marco,
> I agree, Praat is an incredibly versatile program and
> should allow Gianni to do just what he was hoping to do. Plus
> I love its sonograms.
> And it's available on PCs and Macs.
> Charlie
>=20=09
> On 9/29/2014 12:18 PM, Marco Gamba wrote:
>=20=09
>
> Hello Gianni,
> You should try Praat (praat.org <http://praat.org>).
> Praat textgrids are exactly doing what you are
> looking for and they can be stored (and manipulated) as text
> files separately.
> However, you should probably avoid working on
> very long files.
> If I can help with more, please do not hesitate to ask.
> Cheers
> Marco
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> On 29 Sep 2014, at 17:43, <
> <>> <
> <>> wrote:
>=20=09=09
>=20=09=09
>
> 'Amadeus Pro' should do the same thing (on Mac)
> Regards
> Martin
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> ...out from MKO^V^Pad...
>=20=09=09=09
> Am 28.09.2014 um 19:21 schrieb "Gianni
> Pavan" < <>>:
>=20=09=09=09
>=20=09=09=09
>
> dear all, I'm searching for a
> software to make labels or annotations, e.g. to mark and
> label specific points in time or specific freqeuncy-time
> areas on spectrograms of wav files.
> the main requirement, other
> that being easy to use, is to maintain the data separate from
> the wav file, without touching the wav file.
> any suggestion ?
> Gianni
>=20=09=09=09=09
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