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Subject: Re: Dialogic Form
From: "Ansar Khan" ansarknp
Date: Sun May 18, 2014 5:01 am ((PDT))
I need yours help for birds sound recorders??? Can u suggest me .
Portable Recorder & microphones for birds sound recordings.

On Saturday, May 17, 2014 7:50 AM, "Bernie Krause  [=
naturerecordists]" <> wrote:



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Interesting discussion, whoever you are (you didn=E2=80=99t identify yourse=
lf in your note altho I=E2=80=99m assuming =E2=80=9CBob."). You might find =
some of the answers (or at least the route to answers) in my recent book, =
=E2=80=9CThe Great Animal Orchestra: Finding the Origins of Music in the Wo=
rld=E2=80=99s Wild Places,=E2=80=9D Little Brown/Hachette, 2012.

Bernie Krause



On May 16, 2014, at 6:32 PM,  [naturerecordists] <=
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>I'm working on something I call Dialogic Form. It shows how there is a ton=
al and rhythmic interdependency within human (and possibly animal) communic=
ation. Because I am a musician, I have noticed that there is a subtle and s=
ubconscious mimicry that takes place within dialogues, similar to how babie=
s learn how to speak. It goes something like this: If person X says 'Kaku h=
as a sexy brain!', person=C2=A0Y will utter at least one of the previously =
heard phonics back into the dialogue; either a, 'ka' 'kou' 'ou' 'hhh' 'as' =
'zzz' 'a' 'sss' 'xi' 'eee' 'ba' 'bra' 'rain' 'ain' 'ai', or 'nnn' - AND - n=
ot only mimic the tone or sound but also mimic the rhythm or beat of at lea=
st one of those sounds. In a healthy conversation, person X will utter a so=
und and then person Y will, without fail (so it seems) also rally back that=
 sound when it's their turn to speak in the conversation. In this way the d=
ialogue evolves, with each person spinning off the other. This can be
 shown by (roughly) scoring a conversation to musical notation, graphically=
 depicting how the conversation is structured; which phonics are common, ho=
w they are related, and how they develop in time. Revealing the Dialogic Fo=
rm (or the relationship of conversational elements/structure) might also sh=
ow how animals communicate (a slurp of the tongue, the stomping of the paw,=
 wave of a fin; body language/movements which mimic certain rhythms and pat=
terns), and how they might even communicate with us using this kind of mimi=
cry. The other part to this is the frequency and rhythmic echo or ping of b=
rainwaves - slightly more difficult to graph (of course, each animal will c=
ommunicate at their own unique tempo/volume; a hyper ant or hummingbird mig=
ht 'speak' faster or more quiet than a lethargic whale). It would be import=
ant to figure this out because, among other things, if we can't understand =
how we humans communicate with one another, not to mention how we
 might communicate with animals - how are we supposed to communicate with a=
liens; unless they speak English? It's a work in progress.
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>I am quite convinced that animals are much more intelligent than human bei=
ngs; in fact, I suspect that they use sound-telepathy to literally repeat, =
like a parrot does, not only the sounds pitches and rhythms that they hear =
around them, or those that stand out, but also the actual brainwaves that t=
hey seem to be sensitive to. I know its a stretch - but I also suspect that=
 even flies and other insects can do this; when was the last time you=C2=A0=
listened carefully to what a fly had to say - likely something it heard som=
e one else say, and came to deliver the message to you; but were you listen=
ing? Crazy, right - or is it?
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>Sesame Street - Words that rhyme with EN.
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>   Sesame Street - Words that rhyme with EN.
>This cartoon shows words that rhyme with EN.
>View on=C2=A0www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo
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