I tend to agree with Duncan. You'll readily adjust and it certainly does
not sound bizarre.
There is an additional reason why I think it's appropriate to ignore the
spatial displacement that occurs when monitoring un-decoded M-S, and it is
certainly pertinent to the FR-2LE (and probably many similar recorders). I
often find that the headphone signal is not particularly loud, especially
in comparison the actual un-monitored sound. Therefore, using headphones,
you will quite likely not be able to assess with any accuracy much about
the how the spatial dimension is being captured anyway. (That is assuming
you are able to even achieve this using *any* headphones/headphone
amplifier rather than correctly set up speakers, though I acknowledge that
some recordists will be much better skilled at this than me.)
I generally aim the Mid mic at what I perceive without headphones to be the
central component (if any) of my subject. This can of course shift while
recording. Then perhaps move the mics after a few minutes and continue.
Another possibility is that featured sounds might be arriving from
approximately left and right, with nothing that is noteable in the centre.
In which case aim the Side mic to best pick up these. In post-production
where you can properly monitor the output you may in end up several choices
of orientation. Which can be a good thing but you won't know that until
you have the options available.
John
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 2:38 AM, <
> wrote:
>
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I'd like to get into mid/side recording and I was
> wondering if I also need to upgrade my recorder (Fostex FR2 -Le) since it
> doesn't
> have a built-in M/S matrix decoder... which would mean monitoring the
> mid channel with one hear and the side channel with the other.
> Does that make sense, or would it sound really bizarre?
> I'm considering a set-up with a shotgun microphone as the mid channel.
>
> I definitely want to keep the option of working the m/s mix in post,
> which rules out any microphone with an internal m/s matrix and L/R
> output.
>
> Any advice will be welcome!
> Thanks
> Michele
>
>
> hi Michele,
>
> as has been suggested there are options for decoding the MS signal in
> your headphones. I have to say also I'd recommend getting used to listeni=
ng
> in M/S. It is weird at first - what's in front of you appears in your lef=
t
> ear and what is to both the left and right of you appears in your right
> ear, which takes some getting used to. But, I have found (by force of
> circumstance really, since for a long while I didn't have a way of decodi=
ng
> my headphone feed) that it's useful listening in this way - I find that m=
y
> imagination is able to anticipate how it'll sound decoded later in post. =
I
> kind of prefer this to having the decoded signal in my headphones, as wei=
rd
> as this may sound, because of course when you decode in post you might
> choose a wider or narrower stereo image (such is the benefits of recordin=
g
> in M/S) and the decoded signal in your phones is just one fixed choice.
>
> Cheers - Duncan
>
>
>
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