Thanks for the evaluation, Vicky! It's so nice to hear mic's you have
made in places where you have never been!
""just plonk the (SSM) rig anywhere and it will 'create' a pleasant
scene for you."
Right on spot! That is what SSM is made for! It is made to be as omni
as possible, picking up sounds around it, with as little coloration
as possible, - still having a even 180 degrees forward boost at high
mid and high, so that you can EQ the track and gain some mic noise.
(Here is a file for the ones who want to dig a bit deeper into this:
http://klas.telinga.com/demo/walkinginacircle.mp3
There is not much difference between the foot steps 180 degrees forward.)
Ray Mansell's "Moose Encounter" at
https://soundcloud.com/llesnam-yar/moose-encounter shows this better
than any other recording I know. As I hear it, the animals are
walking in the water to the left, getting up on land, walking around
behind the microphones and then into the water again. This recording
would have been totally different with a SASS and I would not have liked it=
.
Of course it is productive to evaluate the sound imaging forward of
the SASS, compared to the SSM, but one has to consider that the
microphones are very different, principally, and that they are meant
to do different things.
B.t.w: There is a DIY kit for the SSM, where you can put them more
apart and improvise as you like.
Klas.
At 01:37 2013-02-26, you wrote:
>This comparison between the Telinga SSM and my DIY SASS Lite may also
>be of interest. Both rigs use the same mics in their construction,
>i.e. 2 x Primo EM172s per channel. My article first appeared on the
>Boundary Mics group blog, and I have now added it to my own website.
>The rigs are both using PIP from Olympus LS10 recorders.
>
>http://www.caperteebirder.com/index.php?p=3D1_35_Telinga-SSM-vs-DIY-SASS
>
>Vicki Powys
>Australia
>
>
>
>
>On 25/02/2013, at 6:47 AM, Dan Dugan wrote:
>
> > Klas Strandberg, Bernie Krause, and I did an A/B test on Bernie's
> > deck comparing a Telinga SSM stereo array with DPA 4060s into a
> > Sound Devices 788T with Naiant phantom-to-PIP adaptors for the SSM.
> > The 4060s were clipped to the sides of the SSMs' windscreens. Level-
> > matched, the SSMs were audibly quieter. After (in post) equalizing
> > the SSMs to flat-on-axis (they have a presence boost) their noise
> > spectra diverged around 2KHz. The SSMs were 3dB quieter at 4K and
> > 6dB quieter above 8KHz.
> >
> > Disclosure: Klas manufactures Telinga mics, and I am a dealer.
> >
> > -Dan
> >
> > On Feb 24, 2013, at 9:19 AM, Jez wrote:
> >
> >> btw. might be helpful (I know its a can of worms !) to list a few
> >> mics, of something approaching equal sound quality of the DPA's,
> >> that are quieter in terms of self noise than 17db.
> >>
> >> my own favourite mic right now is the Sanken CUW-180 but that is
> >> also 17db, though i've not found the self noise to be an issue
> >> even recording empty (very, very quiet) buildings for example.
> >>
> >> --- In Dan Dugan <> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I would (carefully !) take issue with the comment about self
> >>>> noise of 17db not being good enough for nature work as most of
> >>>> the mics that offer truly stunning recordings in the field have
> >>>> self noise of around this or even higher (such as the DPA4060's).
> >>>
> >>> In terms of fidelity I agree with you completely. It all depends
> >>> on the scene. In quiet forest or desert soundscapes 17dBA mic
> >>> self-noise will be the noise floor of the recording. In these
> >>> cases quieter mics will be better.
> >
> >
>
>
>
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>sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Krause.
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