Peter,
I don't own an iPhone so can't be sure what it has, but the iRig has
a manual rotating dial for levels. And, as Marco says, a headphone
socket.
Vicki
On 07/12/2012, at 7:14 AM, Peter Shute wrote:
> IPhone has no recording level control?
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:
>> On Behalf Of vickipowys
>> Sent: Friday, 7 December 2012 6:44 AM
>> To:
>> Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] Re: iRig pre
>>
>>
>>
>> Peter,
>>
>> I can't see why you could not plug an ME66 directly into an
>> IPhone (with a specialized lead), but the advantage of the
>> IRig is that you can also control the recording levels.
>>
>> Vicki
>>
>> On 06/12/2012, at 7:35 AM, Peter Shute wrote:
>>
>>> Would you be able to plug an ME66/K6 directly into an
>> iPhone, assuming
>>> you had the right connector for plugging a mic into a mic/ headset
>>> socket? Or is that what the iReg pre is acting as in this case?
>>>
>>> Peter Shute
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From:
>>>> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com>
>>>>
>>>> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of
>> vickipowys
>>>> Sent: Thursday, 6 December 2012 7:08 AM
>>>> To:
>>>> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] Re: iRig pre
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Alan,
>>>>
>>>> All the advertising for the iRig Pre indicates that yes indeed you
>>>> could connect a Sennheiser ME66 to an iPhone. The iRig has
>> optional
>>>> power supply, you would switch it off if the mic supplied its own
>>>> power. Yes you do need the K6 unit with the ME66, I would
>> recommend
>>>> the one that uses its own battery power, 1 x AA battery lasts for
>>>> ages if you remember to switch it off between recording sessions.
>>>> You can also bypass the AA battery to use 48V phantom power.
>>>> If you intend to eventually use the ME66 with a smaller flash card
>>>> recorder then you would definitely need the AA battery-powered K6
>>>> unit. Rode made handles and softie windshields that are
>> much cheaper
>>>> than Rycote or Sennheiser.
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps!
>>>>
>>>> Vicki
>>>>
>>>> On 06/12/2012, at 12:15 AM, symmerista wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The Edutige does in fact do nothing more than amplifying
>>>> the iphone's
>>>>> sound. This does increase my students' ability to identify
>>>> unknowns,
>>>>> but post-processing, e.g., through Audacity, is probably at
>>>> least as
>>>>> helpful.
>>>>>
>>>>> My apologies for being dense here (ever since I lost
>> hearing in one
>>>>> ear I've 'focused' almost entirely on the visual rather
>>>> than the audio
>>>>> in the field), but if I splurged on the Sennheiser ME66
>> (and the K6
>>>>> too, I presume?), could I use the iRig Pre to connect it to
>>>> my iPhone?
>>>>> I realize that might be overkill, but for now that would clean my
>>>>> budget out, and I could then start saving up for a proper
>> recorder.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Alan
>>>>>
>>>>> --- In
>>>>> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com>
>>>>> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com> , vickipowys
>>>> <> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alan,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Edutige mic looks intriguing. I had a listen to a sample
>>>>>> recording but it seems to me that the hiss-noise increases
>>>> along with
>>>>>> the stronger signal from the mic, so it is not doing much
>>>> more than
>>>>>> amplifying the sound you are already getting from the
>>>> iPhone. All the
>>>>>> same, such gadgets can be useful to documenting wildlife
>> sounds if
>>>>>> nothing else is available. You would probably find the
>>>> windshield is
>>>>>> inadequate, but better than nothing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you want to use a larger better quality mic you have to
>>>> consider
>>>>>> handling noise and most likely you would need a handle
>> and shock-
>>>>>> mount for it, and a decent wind cover such as one of the 'softie'
>>>>>> types. By the time you have all of that (e.g. Sennheiser
>>>> ME66 gun mic
>>>>>> is a great field mic for species recording), then you
>>>> might as well
>>>>>> go with a purpose-built recorder such as Sony or Olympus
>>>> or whatever
>>>>>> (lots of references on this list), and you can then set
>>>> the recording
>>>>>> sample rate to 96 K which will be useful for insect recordings.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Meanwhile, you can probably do quite a lot with the
>> iPhone and it
>>>>>> would be no worse than the equipment that many of us
>>>> started out with
>>>>>> e.g. hissy cassette recorders and tie-pin microphones.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> good luck!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Vicki
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 26/11/2012, at 9:06 AM, symmerista wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm intrigued by the iRig Pre. For my field biology class
>>>> I bought a
>>>>>>> $30 Edutige EIM-001 i-Microphone for my iPhone, and it
>> definitely
>>>>>>> made sounds somewhat louder, which helped for our main
>>>> purposes of
>>>>>>> recording unknown animals for later identification. The
>>>> Edutige also
>>>>>>> worked with most of my students' various Android phones,
>>>> though it's
>>>>>>> not marketed as such. Any chance that the iRig likewise has
>>>>>>> unadvertised Android compatibility?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My main question, however, is what microphone would be a good,
>>>>>>> inexpensive choice to connect to an iphone/iRig setup. My
>>>>>>> objectives, for now, are not to produce "publication quality"
>>>>>>> sounds, but to capture good-quality sounds of birds, singing
>>>>>>> insects, frogs and toads for documentation and identification
>>>>>>> purposes. Portability is important, as I also lug around
>>>> a fair bit
>>>>>>> of camera equipment. I've looked at the specs of many different
>>>>>>> mikes, but after a while my head starts spinning as I
>> don't know
>>>>>>> nearly enough to decide which pros and cons are most relevant!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --- In
>>>>>>> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com>
>>>>>>> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com> , "Max"
>>>> <maxcatterwell@>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I did further testing last night, and decided to take another
>>>>>>>> approach this morning. Instead of starting from low
>>>> level (2 or 3)
>>>>>>>> on the LS-10, I set iRig to minimum and maxed Olympus to
>>>> 10. I then
>>>>>>>> slowly increased gain while studying the signal level on the
>>>>>>>> Olympus. I then compared recordings using spectogram view on
>>>>>>>> Audition. Although not particularly scientific, I'm of
>>>> the opinion
>>>>>>>> that this method produces quieter results. I need to
>>>> re-do the last
>>>>>>>> test tonight to confirm my opinion. I would really love
>>>> for one of
>>>>>>>> our techy sound specialists to get hold of one of these
>>>> and test.
>>>>>>>> The weather in the UK at the moment is pretty
>> horrendous, and it
>>>>>>>> doesn't look like I'll be getting out to record
>> wildfowl coming
>>>>>>>> into roost within the next few days. I can't wait to try
>>>> this out
>>>>>>>> in 'the field'.
>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>> Max
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --- In
>>>>>>>> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com>
>>>>>>>> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com> , "Max"
>>>>>>>> <maxcatterwell@>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi to Marco and all,
>>>>>>>>> The lead arrived today, and I have just tested it and
>>>> this is what
>>>>>>>>> I've found. Plug into MIC; Turn LS-10 gain to 2 and
>> reduce iRig
>>>>>>>>> gain to minimum. Set sense to Low and turn on to
>> Record Pause;
>>>>>>>>> adjust gain on iRig. There will be no response if gain
>>>> is set to
>>>>>>>>> zero on LS-10.
>>>>>>>>> I've done a very quick test with these settings, and
>> at maximum
>>>>>>>>> gain on the iRig, and I have to say that I'm extremely
>>>> surprised
>>>>>>>>> at the quality. All being well I'll do another test
>>>> late at night
>>>>>>>>> with no outdoor traffic, and with all nearby electrical
>>>> components
>>>>>>>>> turned off. I will then submit a short sample for one
>>>> of our 'tech
>>>>>>>>> boys' to examine, and give us a more critical
>> opinion. I should
>>>>>>>>> have said that the mic I used was an AT3032.
>>>>>>>>> One thing already for the 'tech boys' is, that Audition
>>>> showed two
>>>>>>>>> identical waveforms; not one?
>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>> Max
>>>>>>>>> p.s. recording at 88.2 - 24bit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --- In
>>>>>>>>> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com>
>>>>>>>>> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com> , "Max"
>>>>>>>>> <maxcatterwell@>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Marco,
>>>>>>>>>> You are of course perfectly correct in saying that
>>>> headphones can
>>>>>>>>>> be used via the recording unit! As I understand it, the eBay
>>>>>>>>>> connector socket is designed to take a TRRS jack as
>>>> the iPhone/
>>>>>>>>>> iPod has. The advert has MAC in the title, and also
>>>> says 'Convert
>>>>>>>>>> your stereo headphones that also have an integrated
>>>> microphone'.
>>>>>>>>>> It will be interesting to find out; I too have
>> ordered one, on
>>>>>>>>>> the basis that I'm in no rush, and it's easier!
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>> Max
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --- In
>>>>>>>>>> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com>
>>>> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com> , m.pesente@ wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Max,
>>>>>>>>>>> I know, it's a fancy way of what I have done to
>>>> connect the iRig
>>>>>>>>>>> Pre to an external recorder, but it's the only way I
>>>> was able to
>>>>>>>>>>> ensure that everything is working.
>>>>>>>>>>> Listening is done by connecting the headphones to the
>>>> recorder
>>>>>>>>>>> (using FelMicamp cable for now!), while the
>> headphone jack of
>>>>>>>>>>> the IRig Pre must be plugged with a 4 pins Jack,
>>>> preferably with
>>>>>>>>>>> the headset for Iphone (do not ask me why, but in my
>>>> case it is
>>>>>>>>>>> so!), because there is no signal for headphones
>> from Irig Pre!
>>>>>>>>>>> I just bought on Ebay the cable you sent the link:
>> I hope it
>>>>>>>>>>> works, even if I have some doubts because the OUT
>> on iRig Pre
>>>>>>>>>>> (as previously said)seems to be plugged with a 4 pins jack
>>>>>>>>>>> instead of 3 pins, but soon we'll know!
>>>>>>>>>>> I hope I explained the best...
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the Ebay link!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Marco Pesente from Italy
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --- In
>>>>>>>>>>> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com> , "Max"
>>>>>>>>>>> <maxcatterwell@>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Pesente,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Many thanks for your input here. I have to confess that I
>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't fully understand your explanation, probably
>>>> because I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>> not really awake yet! If I did understand that
>>>> you're using the
>>>>>>>>>>>> headphone OUT on the iRig, then I'm confused,
>>>> because I thought
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd read somewhere that the headphone OUT was not passed
>>>>>>>>>>>> through from the iRig, but was a return from the
>>>> iPhone? BUT,
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not that well educated in this area, so I
>>>> probably got it
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrong.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, one method I was going to try, being quite
>> lazy, was
>>>>>>>>>>>> this:
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330820239423?
>>>>>>>>>>>> ssPageName=3DSTRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=3Dp3984.m1423.l2649
>>>>>>>>>>>> To make it neater you could cut off the headphone lead and
>>>>>>>>>>>> insulate. The only problem with this is, if what I
>> heard is
>>>>>>>>>>>> correct, then there wouldn't be any signal from the iRig
>>>>>>>>>>>> headphone output.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you enlighten me on any of this please?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>>>> Max
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --- In
>>>>>>>>>>>> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com>
>>>> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com> , m.pesente@ wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I connected the iRig Pre to some of my small audio
>>>> recorders
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (M10, LS5, Roland R05, Zoom H1 etc) feeding a
>>>> single AT 3032
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ph 48v with very good results. I am very pleased
>> with this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> small microphone preamplifier iRig Pre suggested me
>>>> by Gianni
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pavan. In order to use the iRig Pre on a device
>>>> other than a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> IOs system (iPhone, etc.), for which it was
>> designed, just
>>>>>>>>>>>>> plug in a 3.5mm "four pins" jack (the same of an IPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>>> headphones cable) to the IRig Pre headphones OUT
>>>> and a pair of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> headphones 3,5 Jack connected to a 10 cm cable
>> "FEL Socket
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saver, stereo" sold by FelMicAmp. Only in this way
>>>> I'm able to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> obtain at the same time to record and monitor the
>> recording
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a device different from IPhone system.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max, once you have made or found a cable that enables to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> connect the iRig Pre with an audio recorder in an
>>>> easier way
>>>>>>>>>>>>> than mine, I would be grateful if you would inform us.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pesente Marco from Italy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "I apologize for any mistakes due to typing by cell
>>>> phone and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the help of the online translator!"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- In
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com>
>>>> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com> , "Max"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <maxcatterwell@> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Mike and all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apologies for not getting back earlier. I have
>> to say that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm quite impressed with the iRig pre. I tried
>> it using my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only remaining AT3032 (really wish I hadn't sold my other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two!) and the quality improvement over the
>>>> internal mic of my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPod Touch was obvious. Most obvious was loss of low
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frequency random noise, in addition to the obvious
>>>> benefit of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gain. My simple tests were using my 66 year old
>>>> ears, which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aren't that good, so take this as you will; I'm
>> sorry it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not more scientific. What I intend to do next is
>>>> to try the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beast with my LS-10 after buying/making an adapter.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As an aside note, I re-tried the the Nakamichi
>> CM-300 set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> again yesterday with my LS-10. This time, I used the low
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> setting sense setting and then upped amplitude by 6db in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Audition. The results certainly confirmed what
>> Umashankar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> said; this is a really good quality, quiet and
>>>> useful set to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> carry (shotgun CP4 with very narrow super cardioid
>>>> pattern;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> omni and cardioid shorts). Whether or not I'd be
>>>> prepared to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pay the asking price I've seen on eBay USA
>>>> sometimes, I'm not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure, but if any of you get the chance to pick one up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cheaply, I'd say don't hesitate. The only
>> downside is that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the batteries are not cheap, but according to
>>>> Umashankar it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> posssible to convert to phantom power.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- In
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com>
>>>> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com> , "Max"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <maxcatterwell@> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No problem Mike, glad to be of help.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- In
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com> ,
>>>> Michael Dalton <mdaltonarielle@> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Howdy Max!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =EF=BF=BD
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the lead. I have filed it as a
>>>> suggestion for my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> friend.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =EF=BF=BD
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wonder why a budget US based supplier such as Nady
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't offer something similar. Maybe they do;
>>>> I haven't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> looked yet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =EF=BF=BD
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The LS-10 owner hasn't said=EF=BF=BDwhether any of my
>>>> suggestions
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have helped.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =EF=BF=BD
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Florida
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.ParrotSpeech.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =EF=BF=BD
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =EF=BF=BD
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Re: Noise in LS-10
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:35 am (PDT) . Posted by:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Max" oatcruncher
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Forgot the link:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://tech. groups.yahoo. com/group/
>> naturerecordists /
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> message/ 49179
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- In naturerecordists@ yahoogroups. com, "Max"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <maxcatterwell@ ...> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- In naturerecordists@ yahoogroups. com,
>>>> Michael Dalton
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mdaltonarielle@ > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The other approach would be to use an
>> external mike and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> preamp. Is there a miniature system that is
>> decent and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> inexpensive for bypassing the internal mikes?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Florida
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.parrotsp eech.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> See my iRig post here
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Max
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "While a picture is worth a thousand words, a sound is worth a
>>>>>>> thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Krause.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> "While a picture is worth a thousand words, a sound is worth a
>>>>> thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Krause.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------
>>>
>>> "While a picture is worth a thousand words, a sound is worth a
>>> thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Krause.
>>>
>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> "While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
> sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie
> Krause.
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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