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Subject: 1. Re: What is a good nature sound recording?
From: "umashankar" umashanks
Date: Mon Nov 5, 2012 5:09 am ((PST))
the last fifteen years, when I teach students sound recording, I tell them =
sound recording was not invented 100 or 120 years ago. writing is the earli=
est form of sound recording. it records only a small range of the sounds we=
 hear, but it is the most important (or meaningful)
=A0
umashankar



>________________________________
> From: Tony Whitehead <>
>To: 
>Sent: Monday, November 5, 2012 12:02 PM
>Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] What is a good nature sound recording?
>
>Yes ... and I enjoy sound recording ...
>
>... but sounds can be shared just as well through words. A good recording
>does't have to be audio?
>
>Here for example is W H Hudson's 1900 recording of a corn bunting singing
>(in "Nature in Downland")
>
>"The common bunting's little outburst of confused or splintered notes, is
>when heard (by me) at the same time mentally seen as a handful of clear
>water thrown up and breaking into sparkling drops in the sunlight."
>
>just a thought
>
>Tony
>
>
>
>
>On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 12:42 AM, Klas Strandberg <> wrot=
e:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Isn't that wonderful, Tony?
>> And, may I add, with the same headphones being able to hear it again,
>> years later? And for others to share?
>>
>> Thanks Bernie.
>> I needed that. (Even if it can be one of those wonderful American
>> ironies which I never will understand, before it's too late...:-))
>>
>> Klas.
>>
>>
>> -04, you wrote:
>> >I sometimes wonder if the reason I record is to give me a reason to
>> listen.
>> >
>> >I know I shouldn't need a reason but, for example, today I recorded the
>> >quiet interior of a rural English church.
>> >
>> >As I let the recording progress inside, I sat outside and simply listen=
ed.
>> >I heard the blackbird's evening chorus. I heard redwings and fieldfare
>> >overhead, fresh in from the east. I heard the distant rumble of main ro=
ad
>> >linking Exeter to Plymouth. I heard dogs bark and footsteps. Cows, crow=
s
>> >and jays. I listened as the breeze picked up and moved slender baldes o=
f
>> >grass between gravestones. And the rustle of leaves and the rain on my
>> >jacket. And dusk spread.
>> >
>> >It almost doesn't matter what I recorded (30 mins of near silence) ... =
it
>> >was a good recording for me.
>> >
>> >Tony
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 8:38 PM, Bernie Krause <
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> > > **
>>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Hear! Hear!, Klas. Great observation.
>> > >
>> > > Bernie
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Nov 3, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Klas Strandberg wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Dan, Bernie and all
>> > > >
>> > > > For 40 years I have been promoting the use of parabols, well aware=
 of
>> > > > that parabols twist "reality" and create illusions. I have been
>> > > > fighting a war against "purists", telling me what a terrible perso=
n
>> > > > I was.
>> > > > But "we" won that war, Dan, Bernie and all. And myself. It ended 2=
0
>> > > > years ago.
>> > > > Today I hear no voices at all, not anywhere, being "purist" about
>> > > > flat frequency curves or non-editing or anything like it.
>> > > > "Every recording is an illusion".
>> > > > Yeah? Who claims differently nowadays? Where is this massive globa=
l
>> > > > commercial sound production industry, aiming for "purity" and
>> > > > forbidding us poor nature sound recordists to switch a filter "on"=
?
>> > > > I don't see the threat.
>> > > >
>> > > > I do see, however, a need for "quality" discussions.
>> > > > I like words like "sonels" and "splashing," because such words giv=
e
>> > > > us ways to describe the quality of a recording. I would like a lon=
g
>> > > > list of such new words together with sound examples.
>> > > >
>> > > > Why is that considered so wrong?
>> > > >
>> > > > Klas.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > At 16:59 2012-11-03, you wrote:
>> > > >>> If all the above sounds like "manipulation", that started with t=
he
>> > > >>> choice, placement and aiming of mics, recording level, and
>> decinding
>> > > >>> when to push the record button.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Ansel Adams made a lot of adjustments in his negatives when he
>> > > >> printed them.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> I've got weeks of rubbish recordings, but the ones that go out a=
re
>> > > >>> those which, to my mind, represent the wildlife in this area. It=
 is
>> > > >>> the end result which matters.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> It's an art of illusion.
>> > > >>
>> > > >>> BTW I've just put a stereo file on Soundcloud asking what is wro=
ng
>> > > >>> with it:
>> > > >>> http://soundcloud.com/stowford/wren-and-stream-stereo-check
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Out of phase?
>> > > >>
>> > > >> -Dan
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> ------------------------------------
>> > > >>
>> > > >> "While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
>> > > >> sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie
>> > > >> Krause.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Yahoo! Groups Links
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > > Telinga Microphones, Botarbo,
>> > > > S-748 96 Tobo, Sweden.
>> > > > Phone & fax int + 295 310 01
>> > > > email: 
>> > > > website: www.telinga.com
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > ------------------------------------
>> > > >
>> > > > "While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
>> > > > sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie
>> > > > Krause.
>> > > >
>> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > > Wild Sanctuary
>> > > POB 536
>> > > Glen Ellen, CA 95442
>> > > 707-996-6677
>> > > http://www.wildsanctuary.com/
>> > > 
>> > > Google Earth zooms: http://earth.wildsanctuary.com/
>> > > SKYPE: biophony
>> > > FaceBook:
>> > > http://www.facebook.com/TheGreatAnimalOrchestra
>> > > http://www.facebook.com/BernieKrauseAuthor
>> > > Twitter:
>> > > http://www.twitter.com/berniekrause
>> > > YouTube:
>> > > https://www.youtube.com/BernieKrauseTV
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >------------------------------------
>> >
>> >"While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
>> >sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Kraus=
e.
>> >
>> >Yahoo! Groups Links
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> Telinga Microphones, Botarbo,
>> S-748 96 Tobo, Sweden.
>> Phone & fax int + 295 310 01
>> email: 
>> website: www.telinga.com
>>
>>
>>
>>=A0
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>------------------------------------
>
>"While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
>sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Krause.
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
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