Hey Mark,
You know...I'm really glad you posted this...I had been wondering about
that myself...fascinating.
Thanks so much,
Diane
--- In Mark <> wrote:
>
> Hi Diane,
>
> I've been following this thread and have given it a lot of thought
over the years . I basically came to the conclusion that I wanted to
record as I heard and reacted in the moment. Many in nature recording
like to use what is called a binaural method of recording. Small mics
are placed within the ear canals to come close to simulate a hearing. I
find that this method at times leaves a vacuum effect through the middle
and other times it works fantastically. One problem with this method is
that it requires the listener to wear headphones to really get the full
effect. Another method that some refer to as Pseudo Binaural is my
prefered way to play with binaural recording. Two small electret
condenser mics can be attached to a baseball cap, a pair of glasses or
anything that allows the mics for a side head mounted placement. This
pseudo binaural method allows you to monitor with the naked ear and
feels so personal, times even your breath is captured in the recordings.
www.sonicstudios.com has a somewhat disjointed website that explains in
a lot more detail what I am trying to express here. Leonard at Sonic has
also worked out capturing wind sound as well with his totally ingenious
wind socks that surround the capsules to magnificent effect. All of the
things seen on Sonic Studios website can be DIY and I believe
Frogloggers sells small quiet capsules for quite a bit less than retail
or online stores will sell them premade for.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Mark
>
> On Jun 9, 2012, at 8:46 PM, "DIANE" wrote:
>
> > Hey Tony,
> > I agree...I did a lot of research last night looking at the next
"step
> > up" in equipment based on the recommendations of the Macaulay
Library
> > and suggestions from everyone who responded.
> > I still have my Sony minidisc, it was one of the first ones, I
haven't
> > used that in a long while because mini-discs are hard to find
nowadays.
> > Thanks for the link to the pied flycatcher.
> > I just put up a track on soundcloud that is a free improvisations
with
> > chickadees, sparrows and some other birds that I'm not sure of.
> > This improvisation turned into the tune "Hello".
> > http://soundcloud.com/diane-moser/me-and-the-chickadees
> > <http://soundcloud.com/diane-moser/me-and-the-chickadees>
> > Being a pianist, it's hard to do soundscape recordings and play with
the
> > birds, unless I have a cabin in the woods as I did at
MacDowell...what a
> > wonderful experience.
> > Thanks and enjoy....
> > Diane
> >
> > --- In "soundings23"
> > tony.whitehead2332@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks Diane ....had a listen to the hermit thrush and I see what
you
> > mean about the hiss. I think its either a matter of trying to get
closer
> > to the bird, which isn't of course always easy, or borrowing/buying
new
> > kit.
> > >
> > > I have on occasion just used the built in mics on my edirol to
record
> > birds well enough to identify them, so if its to enable you to
> > transcribe the sounds, that might work.
> > >
> > > The Causse recording btw was with an old Sony minidisc, which had
to
> > my ears a relatively good pre-amp for quite a cheap bit of kit.
> > >
> > > The hermit thrush does have a wonderful song. The short mournful
> > phrases reminded me vaguely of pied flycatcher
> > http://www.xeno-canto.org/98798 - although the two are not related.
> > >
> > > I enjoyed what you did with sounds as well ... lovely piano/bass
> > >
> > > all the best
> > >
> > > Tony
> > >
> > > --- In "DIANE" cbbmo@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hey Tony,
> > > > Wow..no hiss..amazing! I'm listening to the first soundcloud
sample
> > > > right now. This is lovely....
> > > > At John's suggestion, I posted part of a recording of hermit
> > thrushes
> > > > and more, you'll hear the enormous amount of
> > > >
hiss...http://soundcloud.com/diane-moser/a-hermit-thrush-at-monday
> > > >
> >
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> > > >
> >
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> > > >
> >
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> >
20amount%20of%20hiss...http://soundcloud.com/diane-moser/a-hermit-thrush\
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> > > > -at-monday>
> > > > The blackbird sounds so clear, and I love all the other sounds.
> > > > Were you using the Edirol when you recorded the Causse du
Larzac?
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Diane
> > > >
> > > > --- In "soundings23"
> > > > <tony.whitehead2332@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Diane ... I used that very mic for years, and do have some
> > lovely
> > > > recordings with it. It is a bit hissy though in quiet places ...
> > funnily
> > > > enough there's a recording here I posted a few days ago from
2002
> > using
> > > > just that model
http://soundcloud.com/tonywhitehead/causse-du-larzac
> > > > >
> > > > > Trouble is, for individual birdsong, it's not directional
enough.
> > And
> > > > as David says, for that you need to spend a bit more money. For
me,
> > its
> > > > the Sennheiser ME66 with the battery powered K6 module. You also
> > need a
> > > > decent grip and windshield - Rycote being the choice. On ebay,
and a
> > bit
> > > > of hunting around probably =C3=82=C2=A3350-400 all in. I realise th=
at's
> > > > expensive - but the difference is remarkable. And unlike a lot
of
> > things
> > > > nowadays, Sennheisers are pretty solid. Here's a blackbird I
> > recorded
> > > > with this mic onto an Edirol R-09 in April this year
> > > > http://soundcloud.com/tonywhitehead/blackbird
> > > > >
> > > > > The other thing to consider, if you're not doing it all the
time,
> > some
> > > > community arts groups may have kit to hire at quite reasonable
rates
> > -
> > > > I'm currently borrowing a Rode NT4 stereo mic from our local
group
> > > > (http://www.auneheadarts.net/blogsite/?page_id=3D350)
> > > > >
> > > > > cheers
> > > > >
> > > > > Tony
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In "Avocet" brini@
wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Do you think the batteries in the mic are contributing to
the
> > > > hiss?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Diane,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Probably not. Hiss in a mic is inversely proportional to the
> > number
> > > > of
> > > > > > noughts in the price. :-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > David
> > > > > >
> > > > > > David Brinicombe
> > > > > > North Devon, UK
> > > > > > Cogito cogito ergo cogito sum - Ambrose Bierce
> > > > > >
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