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Re: AT3032/MX391 Dawn Chorus Comparison

Subject: Re: AT3032/MX391 Dawn Chorus Comparison
From: "Klas Strandberg" klasstrandberg
Date: Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:05 pm ((PDT))
I agree!

Developing the Telinga SSM mic I have used 3032 as reference. I think
they are unbeatable, if you weigh sound quality and noise floor.
But I still would like the 183's to be available. Best small size
omnis ever made, if you can accept the self noise.
The MX391 might have a better self noise, though, if they have have
used the PZM effect to cut down self noise electronically?

Klas.


At 15:56 2012-03-30, you wrote:
>Tom,
>
>If I understand this right, the MX391 seems to be none other than
>our good ol' friend the WL-183, mounted on a small boundary plate
>with a grille cover.
>
>Lately I've been comparing my WL-183s and AT3032s with a view toward
>some international travel I have coming up in a couple months. To my
>ear, the WL-183s (aka MX391s) definitely seem to deliver a bit more
>high-end bite compared to AT3032s, but slightly less fine detail
>when I strain to listen closely. I can also easily hear the
>increased noise floor of the 183s. Your recordings seem to confirm
>these things.
>
>In robust soundscapes the WL-183s/MX391s can be fine. For the
>quietest soundscapes, where lower noise and maximum detail might be
>more important to you, I would suggest leaning toward the 3032s.
>
>For traveling, however, size, weight and powering requirements might
>be possible tipping factors. Other tipping factors might include
>wind tolerance and handling noise, which can vary a lot depending on
>how your mics are mounted.
>
>Curt Olson
>http://minnesotasoundscapes.com
>
>
>Tom R. wrote:
>
> > I took the opportunity to record last Sunday's dawn chorus
> (90minutes before dawn in fact) during a period of good weather
> with very light winds.  There were only a few early flights heading
> to/from the London airports and very light road traffic so
> background noise was reasonable apart from the sound of neighbours'
> heating furnaces switching in and out.
> >
> > The AT 3032s were fed to a Marantz 661 and the Shure MX391s to an
> Olympus LS-10.  Both sets of mics were mounted on nearly identical
> head spaced boundary rigs i.e. those shown in the photographs here
> >
> >
> https://picasaweb.google.com/G0SBW.PM/AT3032MX391BeachTestFebruary142012?=
authuser=3D0&feat=3Ddirectlink
> >
> > The same 90 seconds of time from the 3032 and MX391 recordings
> have been joined together; with the 3032 going first.  These
> snippets are of from the last third of the dawn chorus.
> >
> > No wind protection was used and a small amount of wind rumble can
> be heard in a couple of places.  The recordings were made 48/24 and
> converted to 320 MP3 before uploading to Soundcloud.  Other than
> fade ins and fade outs the recordings are as/is from the
> recorders.  The comparison is here
> >
> > http://soundcloud.com/g0sbw/at3032-mx391-dawn-chorus
> >
> > I am finding it difficult to choose between them.  I think the
> ATs are more detailed but the Shures seem warmer.
> >
> > Cheers, TomR
>
>
>
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