Thanks for your reply. Nice recording, but that certainly is a lot of hiss! :(
One comment was "much of the noise sounds to me like wind in the treetops,
rather than recorder noise". Were you using the Rode Dead Kitten for this one?
I definitely would like to record in quiet and potentially somewhat windy
places...
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Peter Shute <> wrote:
>
> I use the pre-record buffer on my PCM-M10 a lot. It saves having to listen to
> lots of unwanted material later. There are other ways, like pressing the
> track mark button, or even writing down the time, but I'm too disorganised
> and impatient.
>
> I recently used its internal mics in a quiet environment for the first time
> recently, and was a little shocked at how much self noise I can hear on the
> recordings. For an example, listen to:
> http://soundcloud.com/petershute/111229-03brandyck
>
> This is what prompted my recent thread about external microphones. I'm going
> to start one soon about noise removal techniques to try to improve that
> recording and some others like it.
>
> If the Zoom is even noiser, then I'm glad I didn't get one. But I think it
> can record 4 tracks? If so then that would be nice.
>
> If you won't be recording in a very quiet environment then it shouldn't be a
> problem. I made another recording nearby to that place a couple of days later
> when it was warmer, and the background of buzzing flies obscured the
> microphone hiss.
>
> Disclaimer: I'm very new to all this, so take what I say with a grain of salt.
>
> Peter Shute
>
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>
> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com><naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com>]
> On Behalf Of Rich DDT
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> Subject: [Nature Recordists] Sony PCM-M10 vs Zoom H4n best for outdoors /
> capturing frogs in the jungle?
>
>
>
> I'm new to nature recording but plan to use sounds from the outdoors to use
> in music productions. I want a great quality setup but looking to spend less
> than $300-350, at least for now. An external mic may very well be in my
> future, but for now I want to start simple using the onboard mic.
>
> I've read reviews here:
> http://www.theatreofnoise.com/2009/11/summary-of-portable-digital-audio.html
> including the followup articles, as well as several other posts on this forum.
>
> At first the Zoom H4n seemed like the most versatile choice, having XLR /
> 1/4" inputs seemed great for being able to directly capture musicians too
> (another desired usage). However the reviews preferred the low noise of the
> Sony PCM-M10, esp for capturing quieter outdoor sounds and ambiance. The
> Olympus LS-11 seemed tempting too, but the more I think about it, the more I
> think I'd use the pre-record buffer for capturing a definitive croak (or
> tweet or howl).
>
> Using onboard mics, am I right to choose the M10? Will I really notice a big
> sound quality loss with the Zoom H4n?
>
> Assuming the M10 is still the best choice, can anyone recommend these
> windscreens over the expensive $50 Sony model ADPCM2?
> http://store.micover.com/micover-slipover-mini-for-sony-pcm-m10-on-board.html
> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/470272-REG/Rode_DEAD_KITTEN_Dead_Kitten_WindMuff_for.html
>
> Thanks for any assistance! I really appreciate the dedication to quality I've
> seen in this forum. :)
>
> Cheers,
> Rich
>
"While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Krause.
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