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From: hartogj <>
while
backpacking through Sierras?


Hi Dan,

The wind noise with the Telinga Clip-Ons sounds more sever than the LS-10 i=
n the
Rycote.  But since the Rycote also makes significant wind noise, what this=

comparison demonstrates is the challenge even a slight breeze can pose when=

recording in very quiet locations.

John Hartog
http://rockscallop.org/

--- In  Dan Dugan <> wrote:
>
> > If looking for best packpacking equipment, may I remind about these
> > http://www.telinga.com/ls10.htm
> > Picture two from the top.
> > And they don't sound "really really really real" - they sound like
> > two very good omnis for Plug In Power and have the lowest self noise
> > level of all such mic's.
>
> I've recently done four overnight sessions, two in Joshua Tree and two in=

>Yosemite, using an "ultralight" backpacking recording system of four Telin=
ga
>clip-ons and two Olympus LS-10 recorders.
>
> So far as weight and recording quality go, the sessions were great.
>
> There are practical considerations; the two LS-10s drifted apart a lot, m=
ore
>than a second in an hour, much more that the MD recorders that I used to d=
o this
>trick with. I have a technique for synchronizing front and rear pairs in p=
ost,
>using a party clicker for head and tail clicks that give me both front-rea=
r and
>recording rate sync. Of course on a couple of takes I forgot the tail clic=
k and
>will have to fake it.
>
> I had an awful scare at the end of a nice dawn chorus at 49 Palms Oasis i=
n
>Joshua Tree National Park. I rolled over in my sleeping bag to hit the sto=
p
>button and there was a static spark from my finger to the recorder. The LS=
-10
>said "memory error" and also "insert memory card." I was sure I'd blown th=
e
>front channels file. The recorder wouldn't shut down. I fiddled with vario=
us
>buttons and then it rebooted. I was very encouraged to see a message "reco=
vering
>file"! Olympus saved my crashed dawn chorus file without damage, bless the=
ir
>hearts. Only the metadata was wrong, the file creation and modification ti=
mes
>were the same. The next desert location I put a cluster of tent stakes in =
the
>sand and poured some water on it. I touched that before touching my record=
er and
>there was no problem.
>
> On Black Eagle Mine Road in Joshua Tree I recorded in perhaps the quietes=
t spot
>that I've ever experienced. When the wind died down in the small hours of =
the
>morning there was just nothing. There, listening with a lot of gain, I not=
iced
>something odd. A light breeze on the Telinga Clip-Ons made a rustling soun=
d,
>distinct from the booming sound of wind on a mic. After I had struck my sy=
stem
>after dawn chorus I heard a canyon wren, and put an LS-10 with a Rykote
>long-hair windscreen on a rock for a few minutes. Though it wasn't the sam=
e
>mics, I think that that recording might serve to compare the effect of the=

>different windscreens. The Rykote fur is long and silky and the windscreen=
s
>supplied with the Clip-Ons are made of stiff wiry fibers. Listen to the tw=
o
>files at:
>
> http://www.dandugan.com/downloads/Nature_Sounds_Recordings/JOTR_wind_test=
s/
>
> The file NS110602_04.26.06_JOTR_BER_Telinga_COM-LS10.mp3 is the Telinga
>Clip-ons, and the file
>
> NS110602_06.39.00_JOTR_BER_LS10_mics_hp_rykote.mp3 is the LS-10 mics with=

>Rykote windscreen in a similar situation (low cut filter on).
>
> What do you think?
>
> -Dan
>














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sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Krause.



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