I have recorded music with omnis many times, long ago, and it seldom
sounds good. There are too much of phase problems cause of
reflections. Usually the high frequencies get lost.
Outdoors is another question: Omnis may sound excellent, but
preferably if they are more apart than the Sony ones.
I have never used a modern Sony recorder, so I can=B4t compare, but I
really like the handling of the Olympus. Menus are simple and there
are wheels to turn to set recording and headphone level.
Yes, there is nothing wrong with the freq. response of the LS-11. All
modern digital recorders perform better than the best analog Nagra...
You mention the Clip.On's. If your friend would like to use them in a
future, it's a border line case with the Sony, cause of it=B4s low PIP-volt=
age.
Klas
At 00:10 2011-05-10, you wrote:
>well, hi, klas.
>I didn't see this until after answering raimund.
>
>yes, indoors. ... including the car. wherever she has a musical thought.
>hum....
>
>ok, would you respond to these thots of mine (not a musician). I kind the
>liveliness of acoustical space. I'm concerned about the bass roll off on t=
he
>olympus ls-10. my female ear hears strident.
>
>but I haven't heard the ls-11. the clips I've heard sound warm.
>
>do you think the ls 11 provides enough of the sound spectrum? she's concer=
ned
>about that.
>I love the build of those machines.
>
>lily
>
>
>
>________________________________
>From: Klas Strandberg <>
>To:
>Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 2:02:15 PM
>Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] Re: Olympus LS-11
>
>
>Hi lily, Klas here,
>
>I would say that, recording music (indoors, I presume?) she will have
>much better use of the two directional mic's of the LS-11, than of
>the two omnis in Sony. The omnis will pick up too much of the room acousti=
cs.
>When singing or playing an instrument into the recorder, the self
>noise level is not important.
>Besides that I can tell that both of my Olympus are running fine even
>though I use them every day.
>
>Klas
>
>At 20:43 2011-05-09, you wrote:
> >Hi Raimund,
> >
> >Just to double check. are you saying the on-board mics of the Sony M10 a=
re
> >quieter than the on-board mics of the Olympus? Or are you saying the Son=
y
> >internal electronics are more quiet?
> >
> >She'll be using both the on-board mics and an external mic for song
> >which will
> >be sent to other musicians.
> >
> >Best,
> >lily
> >
> >
> >
> >________________________________
> >From: Raimund <>
> >To:
> >Sent: Mon, May 9, 2011 1:18:17 AM
> >Subject: [Nature Recordists] Re: Olympus LS-11
> >
> >
> >Hi Lily
> >
> >I would pick the Sony PCM-M10 because its internal (omni-directional)
> >microphones are considerably quieter than those of the Olympus.
> >
> >The choice between the two recorders is of course also a matter of perso=
nal
> >taste and would depend on the way how it is being used.
> >
> >
> >For instance, I usually record only for relatively short periods of
> >time and I
> >regularly transfer the recordings to my computer once I returned
> from a trip.
> >The 4 GB built-in memory is therefore more than enough for me
> >(providing a total
> >recording time of 6 hours at 44.10kHz/16bit).
> >
> >Regards,
> >Raimund
> >
> >--- In Lily Plants <> wr=
ote:
> > >
> > > Raimund, thank you!
> > >
> > > I, too, have difficulty knowing how to evaluate for musicians.
> I have will
> > > propose: (1) that my friend go in with me to buy the Sony PCM-M10
> > or Olympus
> > > LS-11. or I'll get the Tascam DR-05 (the zoom is just too
> > flimsy). Unless she
> > > needs XLR.
> > >
> > > I've noticed talking with B&H pro audio, that they don't know the Oly=
mpus
> > > recorders. If you had to choose between the Sony and the Olympus
> > LS-11 would
> > >you
> > >
> > > have a preference?
> > >
> > > My regards,
> > > Lily
> > > (I'm going to start another topic re XLR choices for my friend)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------------
> >
> >"While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
> >sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Krause=
.
> >
> >Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>Telinga Microphones, Botarbo,
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>Phone & fax int + 295 310 01
>email:
>website: www.telinga.com
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>
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>sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Krause.
>
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