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Re: Ultrasonic Recording

Subject: Re: Ultrasonic Recording
From: "Avocet" madl74
Date: Fri Nov 5, 2010 10:53 am ((PDT))
>the least expensive way to accomplish that would probably be to use 
>an Avisoft Bioacoustics phantom-powered electret ultrasound 
>microphone (http://www.avisoft.com/usg/ep3.htm) in conjunction with a 
>cost-effective 192 kHz USB audio interface such as the E-MU Tracker 
>Pre 
>(http://www.emu.com/products/product.asp?product=17511&nav=features). 
>The microphone would cost $550 and the audio interface about $150.

Raimund,

I notice the Avisoft mics use Knowles capsules and I've tried several 
of these with some success up to 120KHz. They need a little 
equalisation and this brings up the hiss above 80 KHz. I've tried to 
minimise this with a home designed impedance matching preamp but that 
experimatation has stagnated a bit looking for the ideal op-amp.

Several commercial bat detectors use Knowles capsules, but they also 
tend to be hissy, but if that is not a problem Knowles may the 
affordable solution to recording ultrasound. They use the same circuit 
as any other electret capsule.

I can't find a freqency spec for the E-MU products and I fear that as 
audio devices, they may well limit the bandwodth to avoid problems 
within the audio region. The last thing you need in any audio setup is 
interference from a source you can't hear. Digital buses can be a 
nightmare. 192s/sec gives a much cleaner audio top end, but not 
necessarily a higher frequency range. If anyone knows otherwise, I'd 
be interested for bat work.

The reason I was discusssing downshifting the ultrasound frequencies 
for analysis is that audio software seems to be much more affordable 
than specialist ultrasound analysis. Someone please prove me wrong. 
:-)

David

David Brinicombe
North Devon, UK
Cogito cogito ergo cogito sum - Ambrose Bierce







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