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Re: ORTF with WL184's, WL185's or boundary mic with WL183's?

Subject: Re: ORTF with WL184's, WL185's or boundary mic with WL183's?
From: "hartogj" hartogj
Date: Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:17 am ((PDT))
Hi Steve,

The specs show the 183 to be the best of the three regarding self-noise (WL=
183: 22.5, WL184: 27.0, WL185: 28.0 dB SPL.)  None of those figures are ver=
y good for nature recording, still some of my favorite soundscapes recordin=
gs I made with two WL183 strapped to the trunk or large limb of a tree. Man=
y others turned out not so great because of the self noise.

Besides the lower self noise of the omnis, I think it is also easier to bur=
y that self noise because sounds from all directions contribute to the subs=
tance of the recording. I am not saying you won't get excellent results wit=
h the directional capsules, but you may have to work harder to get them, es=
pecially with several more dB of self noise.

Your distance question is hard to answer because that depends on the dynami=
cs of the specific natural setting, but I think the difference in self nois=
e may be more important than polar pattern or array.

John Hartog


--- In  Steve Duncan <> wrote:
>
> What do you suppose the relative differences would be between an ORTF mad=
e with either Shure WL184 (super cardioid) or WL185(cardioid) mics, or a bo=
undary system (ala Curt Olson) using WL183's?
>
> Seems like the 183's might be more versatile overall (i.e. in other appli=
cations), but the ORTF might make a smaller package.
>
> Any thoughts? Is one going to be better for short or long distances (say =
3m vs. 30m)?
>











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sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Krause


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