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Re: Ghostly Metadata

Subject: Re: Ghostly Metadata
From: "greg.winterflood" greg.winterflood
Date: Sun May 2, 2010 4:45 pm ((PDT))

Charles, Thanks for the links below. I found it reassuring to learn that th=
e technology, which I had imagined was necessary to perform the trick I obs=
erved, really does exist. I was able to sleep a little more easily last nig=
ht!

Vlad, The =A9 date on the sleeve notes is 1997. I've copied another tape =
=A9 1995 which did the same thing. The sleeve notes on it say the tape was =
manufactured and printed in England, but the metadata from Windows Media Pl=
ayer came back in Spanish! The metadata correctly names the composer of the=
 first track, but says it is performed by V=E1rios artistas.

At least I no longer think THEIR database has me singled out and pinned dow=
n...:)

Cheers,

Greg Winterflood
Alice Springs
Northern Territory, Australia


--- In  Charles Veasey <=
> wrote:
>
> My friend has an iphone. We to the movies, a song was playing, he pulled=

> it out, did something and it was able to ID the song acoustically. No
> doubt Microsoft is employing a similar technology.
>
> Here are some products which do a similar, if not exactly the same thing:
> http://www.amplifindmusicservices.com/what/amplifind.php
> http://musicbrainz.org/doc/MusicIP
>
> -best,
> Charles
>
> p.s. I've been listening to a lovely chorus of spring peepers and
> american toads all week from my new rural apartment in Schodack/Nassau
> of Upstate NY.
>
>
> On 5/2/10 8:38 AM, Wolodymyr Smishkewych wrote:
> >
> > Greg, that us creepy. Out of curiosity, when is the tape itself from
> > (year)? I'm curious to know if indeed there is a way to have encoded
> > in some part of the cassette tape or in an inaudible fequency? I have
> > a Technics home audio player which has CD and cassette capabilities
> > and can read CD-Text. I'd like to test tapes to see if they have any
> > embedded album/track info. The other thought is that Gracenote/CDDB
> > have some way to recognize tracks via the first few seconds of their
> > audio signal content.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Vlad
> >
> > Sent from my iPod
> >
> > On 2 May 2010, at 02:11, vickipowys <
> > <vickipowys%40skymesh.com.au>> wrote:
> >
> > > Greg,
> > >
> > > Utterly spooky!
> > >
> > > Vicki
> > >
> > > On 02/05/2010, at 3:32 PM, greg.winterflood wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello all. Although my question is somewhat off topic for this
> > > > Group, given the recent extensive discussion of metadata, I thought
> > > > someone in the Group might have an explanation for the happening
> > > > described below.
> > > >
> > > > I began recording birdsong in 2003 with a Marantz PMD222 mono
> > > > cassette tape-recorder. It has since been replaced by an Olympus
> > > > LS-10 digital recorder. Recently I began to copy some of my
> > > > favourite old music tapes so that I could play them on a Walkman
> > > > mp3 player. Thinking I would bypass the sound card on the PC and
> > > > avoid a lot of other fiddling around I played a music tape on the
> > > > Marantz and connected its Line-Out to the Line-In of the Olympus. I
> > > > set the Olympus to record mp3 at 320kbps. I did not record each
> > > > song on the music tape separately, but just let the tape run from
> > > > start to finish and so ended up with one long mp3 track.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > After recording Side One of the music tape, I used a USB cable to
> > > > transfer the mp3 recording to Windows Media Player on my PC.
> > > > Imagine my surprise when, after playing the recorded track for a
> > > > minute to see how it sounded, Windows Media Player popped up with
> > > > the correct name of the first song on Side One of the music tape.
> > > > It also gave me the name of the composer of the song, an album
> > > > name, plus album artwork. The album name and artwork was not the
> > > > same as the album I had copied, though it was by the same artist.
> > > >
> > > > My ADSL connection to the Internet was on while this happened. I
> > > > assume something was able to monitor the music I was playing in
> > > > Windows Media Player. However, unless there is metadata on the
> > > > music tape, which was preserved through the copying process,
> > > > something monitoring my PC would have had to recognize some part of
> > > > my copy of the taped music, and somehow match it to a specimen of
> > > > music stored on its database, and then send the metadata associated
> > > > with the music back to me.
> > > >
> > > > I've tried Googling for an explanation of this phenomenon but have
> > > > had no luck so far. I remain somewhat spooked, and continue to
> > > > wonder where the metadata came from, and how it found me?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Greg Winterflood
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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