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Re: Ghostly Metadata

Subject: Re: Ghostly Metadata
From: "Charles Veasey" veasec
Date: Sun May 2, 2010 6:12 am ((PDT))
My friend has an iphone. We to the movies, a song was playing, he pulled
it out, did something and it was able to ID the song acoustically. No
doubt Microsoft is employing a similar technology.

Here are some products which do a similar, if not exactly the same thing:
http://www.amplifindmusicservices.com/what/amplifind.php
http://musicbrainz.org/doc/MusicIP

-best,
Charles

p.s. I've been listening to a lovely chorus of spring peepers and
american toads all week from my new rural apartment in Schodack/Nassau
of Upstate NY.


On 5/2/10 8:38 AM, Wolodymyr Smishkewych wrote:
>
> Greg, that us creepy. Out of curiosity, when is the tape itself from
> (year)? I'm curious to know if indeed there is a way to have encoded
> in some part of the cassette tape or in an inaudible fequency? I have
> a Technics home audio player which has CD and cassette capabilities
> and can read CD-Text. I'd like to test tapes to see if they have any
> embedded album/track info. The other thought is that Gracenote/CDDB
> have some way to recognize tracks via the first few seconds of their
> audio signal content.
>
> Cheers,
> Vlad
>
> Sent from my iPod
>
> On 2 May 2010, at 02:11, vickipowys <
> <vickipowys%40skymesh.com.au>> wrote:
>
> > Greg,
> >
> > Utterly spooky!
> >
> > Vicki
> >
> > On 02/05/2010, at 3:32 PM, greg.winterflood wrote:
> >
> > > Hello all. Although my question is somewhat off topic for this
> > > Group, given the recent extensive discussion of metadata, I thought
> > > someone in the Group might have an explanation for the happening
> > > described below.
> > >
> > > I began recording birdsong in 2003 with a Marantz PMD222 mono
> > > cassette tape-recorder. It has since been replaced by an Olympus
> > > LS-10 digital recorder. Recently I began to copy some of my
> > > favourite old music tapes so that I could play them on a Walkman
> > > mp3 player. Thinking I would bypass the sound card on the PC and
> > > avoid a lot of other fiddling around I played a music tape on the
> > > Marantz and connected its Line-Out to the Line-In of the Olympus. I
> > > set the Olympus to record mp3 at 320kbps. I did not record each
> > > song on the music tape separately, but just let the tape run from
> > > start to finish and so ended up with one long mp3 track.
> > >
> > >
> > > After recording Side One of the music tape, I used a USB cable to
> > > transfer the mp3 recording to Windows Media Player on my PC.
> > > Imagine my surprise when, after playing the recorded track for a
> > > minute to see how it sounded, Windows Media Player popped up with
> > > the correct name of the first song on Side One of the music tape.
> > > It also gave me the name of the composer of the song, an album
> > > name, plus album artwork. The album name and artwork was not the
> > > same as the album I had copied, though it was by the same artist.
> > >
> > > My ADSL connection to the Internet was on while this happened. I
> > > assume something was able to monitor the music I was playing in
> > > Windows Media Player. However, unless there is metadata on the
> > > music tape, which was preserved through the copying process,
> > > something monitoring my PC would have had to recognize some part of
> > > my copy of the taped music, and somehow match it to a specimen of
> > > music stored on its database, and then send the metadata associated
> > > with the music back to me.
> > >
> > > I've tried Googling for an explanation of this phenomenon but have
> > > had no luck so far. I remain somewhat spooked, and continue to
> > > wonder where the metadata came from, and how it found me?
> > >
> > >
> > > Greg Winterflood
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>










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