Charles:
I hope you do this as your project! Any code I've generated is at your disposal.
I think the list you provide here is a good starting point. But there are a lot
of other potential users who'd need/want/be interested in other fields. So
building in some ability to add on or customize would be very important. At
least if the goal is to attract most potential users.
In your design stage I REALLY REALLY suggest you consult a librarian/museum
curator/archivist for some input. I can give you some contact info off list if
you like, but you can probably track a few down on your own.
These folks know more than anyone about how to take care of (and re-find)
information in the long term and so could have valuable input into making data
useful in the future. It is a huge problem and has to be solved correctly
right from the outset to avoid a huge mess.
Plan on an open/free specification that will include all manner of data that
people can provide about a recording...
Best!
Steve P
--- In Charles Veasey <>
wrote:
>
> Below is a draft for database categories. Thank you to Bernie and Martyn
> for creating fine examples of documentation in print and online.
>
> Am I infringing on any copyrights by using these terms?
>
> Any comments appreciated. Category subheading only display with category
> type. Sorry to stray off specific Nature recording, but it is only a
> minor aspect.
>
> Index Number:
> Title:
> Audio File:
> Category: Soundscape, Animal, People, Music
>
> [Soundscape]
> Geophony:
> Biophony:
> Anthrophony:
>
> [Animal]
> Type:
> Vocalization:
> Behavior:
>
> [People]
> Language:
> Culture:
> Conversation Subject(s):
>
> [Music]
> Piece(s):
> Composer(s):
> Performer(s):
>
> [Location Information]
> Site:
> City:
> State/Province:
> Country:
> GPS Coordinates:
>
> [Location Description]
> Biome:
> Altitude:
> Flora:
> Fauna:
> Landscape Details:
>
> [Location Weather]
> Description:
> Season:
> Temperature:
> Barometer:
>
> [Recording Time]
> Record Date:
> Record Time:
> Record Length:
>
> [Recording Setup]
> Recorder Type:
> Preamp Type:
> Preamp Levels:
> Microphone(s):
> Mic Setup:
> Encoding:
> EQ:
> Compression:
>
> [Edits]
> Edits Made:
> Edit Description:
> Edit Date:
> Edit Time:
>
> [DSP]
> Processes Made:
> Process Description:
> Process Date:
> Process Time:
>
> [Evaluation]
> Rareness:
> Spatialization:
> Noise:
> Overall:
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> Charles
>
>
>
> On 4/22/10 3:26 PM, John Lundsten wrote:
> >
> > Charles Veasey wrote
> >
> > | That's true Nuendo does a fine job at allowing you to create and search
> > | metatags. Though I'm not clear on its implementation on the file.
> > | -charles
> >
> > as far as Nuendo 2 & 3 go the BWF support is very poor.
> > Yes it extracts the timestamp and that is included in the tags stored in
> > the session NPR file. It has no understanding at all of info a
> > recorder like
> > the SD, Deva etc put in the description field.
> >
> > A huge limitation is this data is structured as sub fields for things
> > like
> > track name, userbits (usually the date goes here), etc but each of these
> > records uses a CR/LF as a delimiter & Nuendo can't write these nor
> > does it
> > display anything past the 1st CR for files coming from any file based
> > recorder.
> > It is however quite suitable for data written as Soundminer structures it.
> > John L
> > |
> > |
> > | On 4/22/10 3:39 AM, Emanuele wrote:
> > | >
> > | > On 21/04/2010 22:50, Charles Veasey wrote:
> > | > >
> > | > > Thanks for the iXML link Paul. I looked at Sound Devices
> > implementation;
> > | > > it is geared for video/film production. Like you said, much of the
> > data
> > | > > that nature recordists would want to record would be crammed
> > into the
> > | > > notes section. I believe you can edit the metadata using a external
> > | > > keyboard that hooks up to the recorder, but carrying an extra device
> > | > > around and editing this way doesn't interest me very much. Last
> > night
> > I
> > | > > tried SD's free software Wave Agent 1.1. Among other things, it
> > allows
> > | > > one to easily edit the metadata from a PC. This is cool, but again
> > most
> > | > > relevant information would be in the notes section. I guess this is
> > | > > really the only option. Even if you completely customized the iXML
> > tags
> > | > > to include things like biophony, geophony, etc, which seems very
> > | > > possible, and made a program to write and read that data, I don't
> > think
> > | > > that any other program, such as an audio editor, would be able
> > to read
> > | > > it (unless it was in the notes section :).
> > | > >
> > | > > Soundminer looks interesting, but it is also very expensive. Also,
> > from
> > | > > looking at the screenshot the metadata options seem to be from pull
> > down
> > | > > options, and it is not clear to me what those options are, or if
> > they
> > | > > are customizable.
> > | > >
> > | > > I haven't been able to figure out how to edit metadata on Wave
> > Editor.
> > | > >
> > | > > Sound Forge 10 (my favorite editor) has introduced extensive
> > Metadating
> > | > > editing capabilities with similar categories to SD.
> > | > >
> > | > > All in all I think embedded metadata is not to serve as the only
> > record,
> > | > > but a copy of the record, which at the very least points to the
> > entry
> > | > > within the database.
> > | > >
> > | > On the other hand,
> > | > there's the Mediabay feature in Nuendo that is glorious in my point of
> > | > wiew.
> > | > It can manage a huge preset of tags on the soundfile and the user can
> > | > also add its own
> > | > tags.
> > | > Anytime you look for a file, Nuendo reads the keyword on the name file
> > | > and all the tags.
> > | > You can select multiple files and change a tag in one go as well.
> > | > There are few things that it cannot manage to avoid the file wipeout:
> > | > Timecode, originator and few ohers.
> > | > I'm using BWAVwriter for those.
> > | >
> > | > --
> > | >
> > | > Emanuele Costantini
> > | >
> > | > Sound, Media Engineer
> > | > Filmmaker
> > | >
> > | > www.ecciproduzioni.com
> > | > www.imdb.com/name/nm1987084/
> > | >
> > | >
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