How does Soundminer structure it?
-Charles
On 4/22/10 3:26 PM, John Lundsten wrote:
>
> Charles Veasey wrote
>
> | That's true Nuendo does a fine job at allowing you to create and search
> | metatags. Though I'm not clear on its implementation on the file.
> | -charles
>
> as far as Nuendo 2 & 3 go the BWF support is very poor.
> Yes it extracts the timestamp and that is included in the tags stored in
> the session NPR file. It has no understanding at all of info a
> recorder like
> the SD, Deva etc put in the description field.
>
> A huge limitation is this data is structured as sub fields for things
> like
> track name, userbits (usually the date goes here), etc but each of these
> records uses a CR/LF as a delimiter & Nuendo can't write these nor
> does it
> display anything past the 1st CR for files coming from any file based
> recorder.
> It is however quite suitable for data written as Soundminer structures it=
.
> John L
> |
> |
> | On 4/22/10 3:39 AM, Emanuele wrote:
> | >
> | > On 21/04/2010 22:50, Charles Veasey wrote:
> | > >
> | > > Thanks for the iXML link Paul. I looked at Sound Devices
> implementation;
> | > > it is geared for video/film production. Like you said, much of the
> data
> | > > that nature recordists would want to record would be crammed
> into the
> | > > notes section. I believe you can edit the metadata using a external
> | > > keyboard that hooks up to the recorder, but carrying an extra devic=
e
> | > > around and editing this way doesn't interest me very much. Last
> night
> I
> | > > tried SD's free software Wave Agent 1.1. Among other things, it
> allows
> | > > one to easily edit the metadata from a PC. This is cool, but again
> most
> | > > relevant information would be in the notes section. I guess this is
> | > > really the only option. Even if you completely customized the iXML
> tags
> | > > to include things like biophony, geophony, etc, which seems very
> | > > possible, and made a program to write and read that data, I don't
> think
> | > > that any other program, such as an audio editor, would be able
> to read
> | > > it (unless it was in the notes section :).
> | > >
> | > > Soundminer looks interesting, but it is also very expensive. Also,
> from
> | > > looking at the screenshot the metadata options seem to be from pull
> down
> | > > options, and it is not clear to me what those options are, or if
> they
> | > > are customizable.
> | > >
> | > > I haven't been able to figure out how to edit metadata on Wave
> Editor.
> | > >
> | > > Sound Forge 10 (my favorite editor) has introduced extensive
> Metadating
> | > > editing capabilities with similar categories to SD.
> | > >
> | > > All in all I think embedded metadata is not to serve as the only
> record,
> | > > but a copy of the record, which at the very least points to the
> entry
> | > > within the database.
> | > >
> | > On the other hand,
> | > there's the Mediabay feature in Nuendo that is glorious in my point o=
f
> | > wiew.
> | > It can manage a huge preset of tags on the soundfile and the user can
> | > also add its own
> | > tags.
> | > Anytime you look for a file, Nuendo reads the keyword on the name fil=
e
> | > and all the tags.
> | > You can select multiple files and change a tag in one go as well.
> | > There are few things that it cannot manage to avoid the file wipeout:
> | > Timecode, originator and few ohers.
> | > I'm using BWAVwriter for those.
> | >
> | > --
> | >
> | > Emanuele Costantini
> | >
> | > Sound, Media Engineer
> | > Filmmaker
> | >
> | > www.ecciproduzioni.com
> | > www.imdb.com/name/nm1987084/
> | >
> | >
> | >
> |
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