tices
Hi Paul
The way I look at these things I could be a very old man before you get eve=
rybody to agree on a standard, so we have to live with it and make do. And =
I do my best to 'make do' and so I make sure I have the codex's necessary t=
o view or listen to most of the formats I come across on the web.
Trying your 'test page' I found that on my MacBook Pro and my Windoze PC ru=
nning Safari on both as the browser with the appropriate codex' s loaded I =
could listen to all your examples with no problem. So although we do 'not' =
have an ideal situation as regards embeding media into web pages we can mak=
e sure we can play most of them by having the right software in place.
So all I was trying to show was that if embeded media is not working for yo=
u it can be made to work, then everyone can share in the wonderful sounds t=
here are.
Phil
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From: Paul Jacobson < com.au>
To: naturerecordists@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Tuesday, 27 October, 2009 2:33:32
Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] Re: QuickTime- State of Media Sharing Prac=
tices
On 27/10/2009, at 9:11 AM, Philip Tyler wrote:
> Hi
>
> If you go here:
> http://www.xiph. org/quicktime/
>
> and download this: XiphQT 0.1.9 and install as instructed then this:
>
> "For comparative purposes this an .ogg version of the same clip.
> Safari on Snow Leopard simply displays "Loading.." but never does..."
>
> Never happens, or at least it doesn't for me I get happy chirpy
> frog, chirp.
>
> Phil
Hi Philip and all,
I recognise this is getting more than slightly off-topic but I guess
given that naturerecordists share audio and video via the web there
is a degree relevance.
The point of the exercise was to demonstrate the way different
embedding methods effect how the audio is handled rather than whether
there are plugins available to support different codecs. Ultimately
the goal of the html5 <audio> and <video> tag is to eliminate the need
for plugins to handle these kinds of media, but there is clearly a
long way to go before that happens. While use of only open/free audio
formats is a worthwhile goal the reality is that it's going to take
time to get to the point where that is viable, and in the interim we
need to take a pragmatic approach.
Take a look at http://www.statowl. com/plugin_ overview. php for example
and you'll see why it's not necessarily a great idea to target
Quicktime for delivering media - it's installed on roughly 62% of
computers using the net. The plugin with highest level of penetration
is Flash (over 95%) and while not open source the Flash plugin is
available for Windows, OSX, Linux and Solaris. The Flash plugin is
able to handle mp3 and mp4 which makes it the best cross platform tool
for delivery of audio and video media available to us at present.
The following links provide good information on how to use flash and
open source players to deliver audio and video in an accessible manner:
http://code. google.com/ p/swfobject/ wiki/iphone_ mp4
http://www.macloo. com/examples/ audio_player/
or alternatively using the open-source version of flowplayer
http://flowplayer. org/documentatio n/installation/ index.html
http://flowplayer. org/plugins/ streaming/ audio.html
As a test I've used a screen capture I made with QTX Player a few
weeks ago to demo Wave Editor layers and Izotope RX. I imported
the .mov into iMovie and then exported as an .mp4 using the "broadband
high" settings.
I've used flowplayer to embed the Wave Editor screen capture (1.6mb
but configured so it won't d/l until you click play) and a second
instance with the Frogs mp3 with a "nice" splash screen, which is
something similar to the 7loons Quicktime setup. BTW this is the
first time I've used flowplayer and it's taken about 30 minutes of
reading the docs and editing html to get enough of a grasp of what was
required to put together this:
http://demo. mactrix.com. au/flash. html
cheers
Paul
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