Thank you John!
I honestly do not expect this type of wind all that often and can plan arou=
nd most of it. There was a particular portion of a beach I had in mind, but=
really can work around it pretty easily. Above all, I will find a way! I=
f I really want that one recording and I'm in the middle of a hurricane, I =
suppose I'm going to be building a house sized wind blind and experimenting=
:)
--- In "John Hartog" <> w=
rote:
>
> Hi Bruce and Rob
>
> Honesty, with my current windscreen design for my NT1A rig, recording in =
any breeze higher than 7 mph would likely produce excessive wind rumble. Th=
is may be a consequence of my choice of windscreen fabric. I can often rec=
ord sounds of stronger winds as long as they somehow miss my mics. Topogra=
phy and ground cover often buffer the wind to manageable levels at micropho=
ne level. One solution is to find a spot where you can hear that wind witho=
ut feeling that wind. That could be very challenging for an open coastline=
setting, and especially with the gale force winds that Bruce is interested=
in recording. Perhaps building a larger wind blind to record from within =
would help.
>
> My recording of wind in the desert sage I made last year by placing WL-18=
3s a few feet apart on the ground below a sage brush worked well for the wi=
nd, though I'm not sure this approach would sound good for surf also.
> http://www.rockscallop.org/ear/jh-080425-1700_sage-wind.mp3
>
> John Hartog
>
>
> --- In Rob Danielson <type@> wrote:
> >
> > At 8:00 PM +0000 6/29/09, brucethehoon wrote:
> > >Thank you so much for your reply. The number of private email
> > >replies I got rather overwhelmed me and as such I didn't get back to
> > >the group in my usual speedy manner.
> > >
> > >To update, I have purchased the PCM-D50, realizing that I really
> > >don't care how much this costs, but ruggedness is a factor.
> > >
> > >That said, as requested below, my first and most important use will
> > >be to record one hour or more of waves / surf at a california beach
> > >with 30mph winds gusting to 50mph.
> > >
> > >I will have the unit on a sand compatible tripod (legs buried) and
> > >would like to record the EXPERIENCE of being there. While not
> > >necessarily suggesting a binaural setup, I would like to play it
> > >back later and be fairly able to close my eyes and be there again.
> > >
> > >If I was able to pack the whole setup (excluding tripod) into an
> > >average sized backback, that would be "portable" for me.
> > >
> > >Spending ANOTHER $300-500 on microphones seems reasonable to me. I
> > >can appreciate that it might seem absurd to drop so much in advance,
> > >but I would rather take the risk of spending too much money than
> > >take the risk of getting a lower quality recording during a once in
> > >a lifetime trip.
> > >
> > >I am using Shure E5C's as my listening method, so I suppose anything
> > >they can't play, I don't care about, when it comes to quality :)
> > >
> >
> > Hi Bruce--
> > In the $300-$500/pair price range, the rigs that John Hartog and
> > variations others have made for Rode NT1-A's have produced striking
> > recordings and these ultra low-noise mics provide the ability to
> > record very quiet locations too.
> > http://www.rockscallop.org/how/barrier10.html Any condenser mic will
> > require phantom powering which the PCM-D50 doesn't have. The cheapest
> > way to provide phantom powering (with no compromise in quality) is
> > with a portable phantom power supply like an Art Phantom II or Rolls
> > PB224.
> >
> > For dealing with steady winds that strong, Rich Peet has some designs
> > made with "Shop Vac" filters that work very well. [Contact him
> > directly at If you go with a traditional
> > zeppelin approach, I'd favor a larger than usual "basket" size with
> > 3-4" of dead air space around the capsules, an inner liner made of
> > taut panty hose stocking and an outer layer of long pile fake fur (2"
> > or longer). Here are some NT1-A ideas:
> > http://www.uwm.edu/~type/audio-reports/Rode_NT1-A_Mics/NT1-A_index.htm
> >
> > Another thought. Surf and wind are quite loud so you can get by with
> > small electret mics and put some energy into making wind protection
> > for them. The tiny Panasonic WM-61A's mics are very accurate in terms
> > of tonal response and can be purchased in a variety of packages well
> > under $100 a pair:
> > http://www.uwm.edu/~type/audio-reports/PanasonicWM-61A_OtherBinauralRig=
s/docs/CompareCommercialLavs_1_2009.doc
> > The popular Shure WL-183's are larger and quieter. You'll find lots
> > of discussion about the WL-183's in the list archive. These electret
> > mics will produce considerable "hiss" if used in quiet locations
> > where the record level is turned up high but they are fine in loud
> > locations. Rob D.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
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