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5. Re: Yellowstone

Subject: 5. Re: Yellowstone
From: "Philip Tyler" macmang4125
Date: Fri Apr 3, 2009 3:51 pm ((PDT))
Many thanks Bernie, the more I hear recodings made using a Sennheiser M/S rig 
the more I like the sound! I will have to investigate what a system would cost, 
and start saving.

Regards

Phil

On 31 Mar 2009, at 16:53, Bernie Krause <> wrote:

Phil,

For the past 20 years, it has been almost exclusively Sennheiser MKH 
30/40 in a MS rig. The mics, (including
most in the MKH series) when used with really quiet preamps, are among 
the best compromise if one desires a wide range
of application options in post-production. The Sennheiser MKH systems 
tend to hold up really well when under a wide range of thermal and 
humidity
conditions and otherwise are extremely hardy in the field. And they 
calibrate extremely accurately between different
comparable systems. They have just issued some new mics in that series 
(like the 8030) that, I've heard, may be even more quiet altho I haven't
tested them for my purposes.

Occasionally, I use a pair of ECM55B lavs that I tie around a tree the 
diameter matching the
same distance between the ears in a human head.

I sometimes do the same with a pair of MKH 20s because they can be 
rigged to encompass a range of from infrasound to ultra.

The SASS system, as devised by Walt Knapp and used by a number of 
field recordists on the
Nature Recordist list, is also a terrific rig.

And even less occasionally, when clients demand it, I use an Aachen 
binaural head although
the result is not terribly useful beyond the traditional binaural  
playback model of being tethered to
a pair of headphones, something I personally find distracting.

Bernie

On Mar 31, 2009, at 8:14 AM, Philip Tyler wrote:

> Bernie may I ask what the mic rig was you used?
>
> Phil
>
> On 31 Mar 2009, at 14:43, Bernie Krause <> 
> wrote:
>
> Thank you, Phil.
>
> BK
>
> On Mar 30, 2009, at 9:13 PM, Philip Tyler wrote:
>
> > Excellent sound Bernie!
> >
> > Makes me want to visit even more.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Phil
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Bernie Krause <>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Monday, 30 March, 2009 16:12:52
> > Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] Yellowstone
> >
> > If one walks about 1.5mi (about 2.5km) to the NW beyond Pebble Creek
> > Campground
> > located at the eastern end of the Lamar Valley, recordists will find
> > relatively accessible
> > and active sites to record, pretty much absent the noise from the
> > Lamar Road to the south (wind
> > velocity and direction dependent and occasional overflights) . I've
> > recorded there at all times of year
> > and have got long periods (30 minutes or more) with no 
> anthrophony. To
> > hear a sample from a Fall recording
> > click on this URL, http://wildsanctuar y.com/shop/ index.php?
> > main_page= product_info& cPath=42& products_ id=101
> >
> > Bernie
> >
> > On Mar 29, 2009, at 6:18 PM, Charles Veasey wrote:
> >
> > > I went to Yellowstone last summer. A truly magical place! After
> > > experiencing that, I felt like I finally had a reference point 
> for a
> > > rich, diverse, non-human soundscape. I went during probably the
> > > busiest
> > > time of the year, late July, with an intent on recording the steam
> > > vents
> > > and geysers. Trucks and cars roared through the park all day long,
> > > so I
> > > took to sleeping during the day and exploring the park at night. I
> > > cannot express how incredible it was to be standing under this
> > > glorious
> > > canopy of stars with steam rising from the earth listening to the
> > > nightlife creatures. One night I was walking through a field in 
> the
> > > dark. As the sun rose, I set up my recorder only to find myself
> > > surrounded by the snorts of buffaloes, the calls of elks, ducks,
> > > birds,
> > > etc. I love symphonic music for its density and harmonic beauty, 
> but
> > > can
> > > honestly say that this wild symphony moved me more than Mozart had
> > > ever
> > > done :)
> > >
> > > This was my first nature field recording expedition, and it turned
> > out
> > > that my equipment was too noisy to capture the animal sounds. The
> > mud
> > > pots and steam vents are pretty loud, so I got some pretty good
> > > recordings of them. They served as the beginnings of the Earth for
> > my
> > > on-going morphological soundscape composition I call the Hudson
> > Mohawk
> > > Sound Gate in which I tracked one geographic location throughout
> > > pre/history into the present. I posted a 12 minute version online
> > > recently at:
> > >
> > > http://hudsonmohawk soundgate. org/Media. html
> > >
> > > Yellowstone is indeed amazing, but the tourist can be annoying. 
> That
> > > is
> > > those who find their car to be the best place to experience
> > nature. So
> > > avoid the busiest time of the year.
> > > Thanks for posting the BBC documentaries I'll bet there are great
> > > sounds
> > > in them, and will have to look for them.
> > >
> > > best,
> > > charles
> > >
> > > ----
> > > http://charlesvease y.com
> > > http://hudsonmohawk soundgate. org
> > >
> > > *sorry if this goes through more than once. I changed my email, 
> and
> > > trying to sort it out.
> > >
> > > Kevin Colver wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Phil,
> > > > A few years ago I recorded as many of the geysers, hot pots, and
> > > > fumaroles as I could over a couple of days. It was amazing to 
> hear
> > > > the different sounds of bubbling, boiling, steaming, and rolling
> > > > waters and mud. There is drama and there is subtlety. Each 
> feature
> > > > had it's own signature sound. I hope you can come and visit the
> > park
> > > > some day. As a recordist, I'm sure you will spend more time with
> > > each
> > > > feature than the average tourist and savor the auditory banquet.
> > > > Also, by the end of September the elk are bugling in full glory,
> > > > sometimes right there with the tourists at the geysers.
> > > >
> > > > Kevin
> > > >
> > > > On Mar 29, 2009, at 3:18 PM, Philip Tyler wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The BBC have been running a 3 part series on Yellowstone which
> > > > > finished tonight here in the UK, I have been catching up on it
> > by
> > > > > watching recordings.
> > > > >
> > > > > What a fantastic place! We have just got to the end of summer
> > and
> > > > > the start of autumn which is where part 3 will continue from.
> > > > >
> > > > > It seems a truly amazing place with some wonderful wildlife.
> > > > >
> > > > > The second episode ended with a look at "geyser gazers" I can
> > > > > understand why some of them do it as when they do blow it is
> > quite
> > > > > amazing and quite a sight.
> > > > >
> > > > > I know this e-mail is not strictly about nature recording 
> but I
> > > know
> > > > > some of the group do record in Yellowstone and I just wanted 
> to
> > > say
> > > > > I am really envious!
> > > > >
> > > > > Phil
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Wild Sanctuary
> > POB 536
> > Glen Ellen, CA 95442
> > 707-996-6677
> > http://www.wildsanc tuary.com
> >  .com
> > Google Earth zooms: http://earth. wildsanctuary. com
> > SKYPE: biophony
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> Wild Sanctuary
> POB 536
> Glen Ellen, CA 95442
> 707-996-6677
> http://www.wildsanctuary.com
> 
> Google Earth zooms: http://earth.wildsanctuary.com
> SKYPE: biophony
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Wild Sanctuary
POB 536
Glen Ellen, CA 95442
707-996-6677
http://www.wildsanctuary.com

Google Earth zooms: http://earth.wildsanctuary.com
SKYPE: biophony



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