[Nature Recordists] Re: terminology

[picnet2 <>]

Hi,
The Finnish word is "Levysoitin" , or translated directly 'disk player',
I think thats quite descriptive as to the machines purpose.
Maybe the mechanics were overlooked in favor of simplicity.

Kind Regards,
Mike.

--- In naturerecordists@ yahoogroups. com, Bernie Krause <> wrote:
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> The first known recorder was invented by =C9douard-L=E9on Scott de
> Martinville, a Parisian typesetter and tinkerer. In 1860, the year he
> demonstrated it, he called it the phonautograph and recorded "Au Clair
> de la Lune".
>
> Seriously, as I pointed out in my last book, Wild Soundscapes, there
> is a profound lack of appropriate and descriptive words in the audio
> lexicon in pretty much all Western languages. And this is a discussion
> that, if anything, illuminates the extent of the problem. For
> instance, in Spanish, the word for a phonograph record is "grabaci=F3n
> de fon=F3grafo." Grabaci=F3n comes literally from the word to engrave
> (para grabar). So it still has etymological roots in the technologies
> first implemented by de Martinville and Edison over a century ago.
> Nevermind the digital era.
>
> Bernie
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> On Mar 28, 2009, at 1:42 AM, picnet2 wrote:
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> > http://en.wikipedia .org/wiki/ Phonograph
> >
> > "The term phonograph ("sound writer") is derived from the Greek
> > words &#966;&#969; &#957;&#942; (meaning "sound" or "voice" and
> > transliterated as phon=E9) and &#947;&#961; &#945;&#966; &#942; (meanin=
g
> > "writing" and transliterated as graph=E9). Similar related terms
> > gramophone and graphophone have similar root meanings. The coinage,
> > particularly the use of the -graph root, may have been influenced by
> > the then-existing words phonographic and phonography, which referred
> > to a system of phonetic shorthand; in 1852 The New York Times
> > carried an advertisement for "Professor Webster's phonographic
> > class", and in 1859 the New York State Teachers' Association tabled
> > a motion to "employ a phonographic recorder" to record its meetings."
> >
> > I prefer the term "Voicenboxen" which if I recall correctly may of
> > been from one of the old Laurel and Hardy classics, - they could of
> > been referring to the radio also...
> >
> > I wonder what the term would be for a Field Recorder? :)
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> > -Mike.
> >
> > --- In naturerecordists@ yahoogroups. com, Bernie Krause <chirp@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > A geograph was a map, before "maps", that is. (Hence, geography)
> > > A sonograph is a graphic display of sound. (Here, the language is
> > > precise)
> > > Graphs, from whatever source, primarily expressed a visual context.
> > >
> > > I never understood the combination prefix/suffix of phono + graph
> > > since, as Murray
> > > Schafer once wrote, "Je n'ai jamais vu un son." ("I have never
> > seen a
> > > sound.")
> > > So the unlikely expression, "phonography, " is even more obscure and
> > > contradictory.
> > >
> > > Bernie
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mar 27, 2009, at 4:25 PM, escalation746 wrote:
> > >
> > > > Lou Judson wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Curiosity about "Phonography" as a term.
> > > >
> > > > I think it's an odd term myself. I always think of "phonograph"
> > > > which makes me think it's something related to either
> > turntablism or
> > > > musique concrete!
> > > >
> > > > -- robin
> > > >
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