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1. Re: impossibility of silence

Subject: 1. Re: impossibility of silence
From: "Bernie Krause" bigchirp1
Date: Mon Dec 29, 2008 7:54 am ((PST))
When the National Park Service was studying the issue of aviation  
noise in the Grand Canyon in the late 90s and the first year or two of  
the new century, the ambient noise levels in some box canyons off the  
beaten track were measured as low as 3dB...nearly anechoic. Box  
canyons are remote areas enclosed by very high (200m+) walls of sound- 
absorbant sandstone. I don't know if there have been publications  
related to this specific phenomenon, Gianni. But the data is sure  
there. You might check with Nick Miller  Harris,  
Miller, Miller & Hanson in Cambridge, Mass., since HMMH was one of the  
teams doing those particular measurements.

Bernie

On Dec 29, 2008, at 12:55 AM, Gianni Pavan wrote:

> interesting topics. Are there papers about the sound level in natural
> habitats ?
> We are plenty of literature about sound levels in urban areas, but
> what about the "quietness" (I mean quietness in relation to human
> noises) of completely natural habitats ?
>
> Gianni
>
> At 17.40 28/12/2008, you wrote:
> >Collin wrote:
> >
> > > I love how recording has opened my ears to what
> > > really is noise. At the same time it makes me
> > > very sad to realize how little quiet is out there.
> >
> >Indeed. The first thing phonography illustrates is the impossibility
> >of "nature" and of "silence". It is an incredible lesson to learn,
> >even if it is a negative lesson, so to speak.
> >
> >-- robin
> >
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