I see now that it may have been easy to miss my point with regards to
messing up the planet. Both my friend and I are keenly aware of
humanity's ability to alter other lifeforms. When referring to
"ourselves", we were talking about life on earth. That statement was
not intended to be confined to humans. If you believe our science, the
"planet" has recovered and likely will again with a new set of lifeforms
after we destroy our habitat. With that, I'll reiterate that we should
be selfish in preserving the ecosystem that defines life as we know and
hold dearly.
Admittedly, this conversation is getting more and more off the topic of
recording--for which I'm sorry if I'm bothering anybody.
Aloha, Robb
David Kuhn wrote:
>
> --- In
> <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com>, Robb Nichols <>
> wrote, citing his friend in his cups:
>
> <The planet will recover in a blink of cosmic time" >
>
> Robb, your friend is sadly mistaken and his "astuteness" reflects a
> profound and cavalier ignorance of the dynamics governing the changes
> we have wrought on the Earth. Lessons from Hawaii: As species
> diversity is irrecoverably lost (through extinction of the most
> specialized creatures first), the species that will thrive are those
> most adaptable, i.e., are immune to most diseases, etc.--imagine an
> Earth populated mainly by rats, pigs, cockroaches, goats, Starlings,
> House Sparrows, and so on--many nature recordists have first-hand
> experience of this very breath-taking dismaying progression. Nothing
> moves me more than the reality of it.
> Aloha,
> David
>
> >
> > Bernie Krause wrote:
> > >
> > > As Bill McKibben once said: "We often choose to love nature to
> death."
> > >
> > > Bernie
> > >
> > > On Nov 10, 2008, at 9:48 AM, Robert Heckendorn wrote:
> > >
> > > > I would like to give an example of endangered local habitat and
> make a
> > > > prediction that I think is relevant to this group and the wild
> places
> > > > we enjoy. The area around Fort Collins, Colorado is exploding in
> > > > population. Huge additions are being built. The recreation in
> the
> > > > area is wonderful (I lived there for 12 years). One of the gems
> is
> > > > the Poudre River Canyon. It is about 50 miles of wonderful
> rural and
> > > > scenic riparian area. The people of Fort Collins love their
> river.
> > > >
> > > > Now for my prediction. even though people love the outdoors and
> love
> > > > their river, when population pressures force the need for more
> water
> > > > and people have to give up all their lawns and cleaning things
> and the
> > > > public pool and when it gets down to just crops and drinking
> water
> > > > they will dam the Poudre river and you can kiss the Poudre River
> > > > canyon goodbye. No one is asking now if there is a problem with
> > > > uncontrolled population growth, they will just take the natural
> places
> > > > because they have to survive *that day* when it is too late. In
> a
> > > > choice between your children's survival and nature, nature
> loses. The
> > > > way to avoid that decision is to consider population today not
> how we
> > > > accommodate the population when it is too late.
> > > >
> > > > I don't mean this to sound so negative but like high explosives,
> > > > exponential growth needs to be handled with great care and we
> can't
> > > > just say "Things will work out". Not that anyone has in this
> very
> > > > nature sensitive group. I just feel compelled by Walt's remarks
> to
> > > > express my feelings about this seldom mentioned threat to
> nature.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
"While a picture is worth a thousand words, a
sound is worth a thousand pictures." R. Murray Schafer via Bernie Krause
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