The home page now reads as follows >>
This moderated group is interested in techniques, issues and general
discussion of recording natural sounds. Topics include, but aren't
limited to recording techniques and equipment, recording venues and
discussions of various animal vocalizations and communication. Other
natural sounds, such as water, weather and wind-generated sounds are
valid topics.
Issues related to computerized editing of sounds, copyrights, Internet
applications and commercial uses of files are encouraged.
It is sometimes necessary to limit discussions that, although they may
be pertinent or desirable to some, can become contentious. In the
interest of the list's survival as a forum for discussion of recording
natural sound, It is recognized that the "playback" thread has the
potential for creating an atmosphere on the list that is not conducive
to civil discussion. therefore the discussion on playback is not
allowed in this group.
Sound files may not be attached to postings, nor will any other
attachements be allowed. Members are encouraged to discuss unknown or
unidentified sounds they have recorded and to post sound files and to
post sounds to the group so that other members can hear them. The
moderator has supplied a web site, which can be found on the "Links"
page, to which members may post sounds larger than 200K for the
benefit of the group.
Martyn
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Redmond WA
425-898-0462
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On Oct 15, 2008, at 7:17 AM, Martyn Stewart wrote:
>
>
> This is the original quote from Doug von Gausig and i will add parts
> of this to the intro page..
>
> > The stated purpose of this list is: "This moderated group is
> > interested in
> > techniques, issues and general discussion of recording natural
> sounds.
> > Topics include, but aren't limited to recording techniques and
> > equipment,
> > recording venues and discussions of various animal vocalizations and
> > communication. Other natural sounds, such as water, weather and
> > wind-generated sounds are valid topics.
> >
> > Issues related to computerized editing of sounds, copyrights,
> Internet
> > applications and commercial uses of files are encouraged."
> >
> > In promoting that purpose it is sometimes necessary to limit
> > discussions
> > that, although they may be pertinent or desirable to some, have
> become
> > contentious. In the interest of the list's survival as a forum for
> > discussion of recording natural sound, I recognized that the
> > "playback"
> > thread has the potential for creating an atmosphere on the list that
> > is not
> > conducive to civil discussion. As the list owner, I have decided
> > that this
> > discussion needs to reach an end that all can live with and move on,
> > thus
> > my suggestion of the code of ethics.
> >
> > I still feel that further discussion about playback may be valuable
> > and
> > interesting, but not on this list.
>
> Martyn
> *************************************
> Martyn Stewart
> http://www.naturesound.org
>
> Redmond WA
> 425-898-0462
>
> Make every garden a wildlife habitat
> **************************************
> Listen to the Birds and the Bees at
> http://naturesound.libsyn.org/
> ------------------------------------------------
> View a Nature Recordists Blog!
>
> http://naturesound.blogspot.com/
>
> http://naturesound.org/Copyright.html
>
> On Oct 15, 2008, at 6:38 AM, Rob Danielson wrote:
>
> > Hi Michael--
> >
> > Searching the list archive it seems there have been quite a few
> folks
> > who were surprised by the unannounced "field playback" policy. Maybe
> > there is a statement somewhere that I'm missing?
> >
> > I find your wording to be a good start towards text that could be
> > added either to the list description or another page of list related
> > FAQ's. Other list participants will have to chime in for us to
> > address a possible change this in a semi-democratic way. Rob D.
> >
> > =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D =3D
> >
> > At 12:53 PM +1100 10/15/08, Michael Gallagher wrote:
> > >Dear Naturerecordists,
> > >
> > >I agree with the moderator's determination to steer discussion away
> > from
> > >field playback, for I believe it has the potential to seriously
> > >disrupt bird
> > >lives when used carelessly. When I read accounts involving use of
> the
> > >technique
> > >by researchers or bird observers, I often feel that the benefits
> > >gained do not
> > >outweigh the potential for seriously disrupting bird lives.
> > >
> > >We are still largely ignorant about animal communication and the
> > >functions of
> > >calls. Much research has yet to be done, and many methods will need
> > >to be
> > >employed, including use of playback, But, I believe that should be
> > >restricted
> > >to tightly controlled research enclosures and laboratories, and be
> > >monitored
> > >by responsible ethical standards committees.
> > >
> > >For the most part, Naturecordists discusses techniques for
> recording
> > >in natural
> > >environments. I believe, along with most other group members, I
> > >assume, that
> > >field playback to call birds in, should generally not be used in
> > natural
> > >environments.
> > >
> > >In responding to requests for information about field playback, I
> > >believe we
> > >should inform requesters of our concerns regarding its use.
> > >
> > >Perhaps a member could prepare a statement that specifies why this
> > >topic is not
> > >generally discussed in this forum that could be sent in response to
> > such
> > >queries.
> > >
> > >Perhaps we should add a statement regarding our position on field
> > >playback to
> > >the introductory statement on the home page.
> > >
> > >Regards
> > >
> > >Michael Gallagher
> > >Bendigo, Victoria, Australia
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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