--- In "oryoki2000" <> wrote:
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> "clay" wrote:
> > I guess I'm surprised that no one are using
> > preamps of the quality of the minidisk in
> > a similar size package.
>
> Sony might have ruled the small recorder universe if they left the
> Hi-MD electronics intact, and substituted a flash card for the
> minidisc as a storage medium.
that is EXACTLY what I'm looking for...
>I suppose they chose to try to prolong
> the life of the Hi-MD instead. It's still popular in Japan.
>
> Sony's $1800 PCM-D1 recorder has excellent preamps and very good
> built-in mics. However, you'll have considerable difficulty fitting
> it into a pocket! The D1 measures 193 x 72 x 33 mm (that's a volume
> of 459 cc) and weighs 617 g.
>
> Sony's $450 PCM-D50 approaches the Hi-MD recorder in preamp quality.
> And it's closer to pocket size (volume 368 cc, weight 365 g).
>
> Recorders like the Olympus LS-10, Edirol R-09HR and Zoom H2 are an
> easier fit in a pocket (volume less than 200 cc, weight 175 g).
>
> All theses recorders are considerably smaller and lighter than the
> Fostex FR-2LE, which has a volume of 1550 cc, and weighs 907 g.
I still can't get over how large the FR-2 LE is,
when you (try to) hold it in your hand.
They could rule the market if it were half the size
(or even 2/3rds) and could still provided phantom
power and XLR connections.
As I understand it (from here at NR),
the preamps are quite good.
>
> The size advantage of the smaller recorders is diminished if you need
> to provide phantom power to external microphones. The Rolls PB224
> battery box, for example, adds a volume of 435 cc and weighs 450 g,
> not to mention the complexity of extra connecting cables to fiddle
> with and more batteries to monitor.
>
> --oryoki
>
on that last point, I guess the point&shoot recorders
are more applicable to 1/8" mini terminated microphones,
which are more in line with the self noise - I have a
Rode SVM and Aquarian H2A that would mate well I guess,
even the Rode NTG-2 (with transformer to mini) would not
be a mismatch.
..and I guess there wouldn't be much point to matching MHK
mid-side setup with a pocket recorder.
...and as near as I can tell, there are NO single-point
stereo mics that have self-noise lower than 17 or 18 db.
All I really need is a <14db Single point mid-side stereo mic,
and a pocketable CF recorder of HiMD caliber.
Is that so much to ask?
clay
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