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Re: Cardioid Vs. Omni for use in Parabolic mic setup...

Subject: Re: Cardioid Vs. Omni for use in Parabolic mic setup...
From: "Rob Danielson" danielson_rob
Date: Mon Jul 2, 2007 8:16 pm ((PDT))
At 7:44 PM -0400 7/2/07, Steve Pelikan wrote:


>  the self noise of the AT3031 (is it as good as
>reported for the 3032 omni?)

Unfortunately, I think not.

>I now know several people who swear that expensive cardioids are 
>better in parabolas

How about two cardioids in separate, big, parabolic dishes with an 
adjustable parallax for stereo? Rob D.

>
>Cheers!
>
>Steve P
>Rob Danielson wrote:
>>
>>
>>  At 11:27 PM -0700 7/1/07, umashankar wrote:
>>   >in theory, it should be an omni mic, but in practice, cardioids work
>>   >better. all you need to make sure is that it is a widish cardioid,
>>   >so it 'sees' the whole dish and not just a small part.
>>
>>  Why would you generalize that cardioids are better? Maybe someone
>>  knows how much of a parabolic dish would be ideally covered evenly by
>>  each mic if stereo or by one mic if monaural.
>>
>>  When I compare the polar patterns at 5KHz, the AT3031 Cardioid is
>>  down about 7dB at 90 degrees off-axis and the The AT3032 Omni is down
>>  about 3dB at 90 degrees off-axis:
>>
>>  http://ad2004.hku.nl/naturesound/3031-32_Card_Vs_Omni_PolPat.gif
>>  <http://ad2004.hku.nl/naturesound/3031-32_Card_Vs_Omni_PolPat.gif>
>>
>>  The rear rejection with a cardioid mic might be a good thing,
>>  especially for an monaural parabolic dish? Rob D.
>>
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>>   >Subject: [Nature Recordists] Cardioid Vs. Omni for use in Parabolic
>>   >mic setup...
>>   >
>>   >
>>   >Recently I asked the group to recommend a good relatively low cost
>>   >microphone for use in the 22" parabolic mic setup I am building. I was
>>   >suprised that one of the mics was a omni (the AT3032)... now I AM
>>   >truely confused as I was under the impression that a cardioid would be
>>   >better by rejecting sound from anywhere other then the focal point of
>>   >the reflector. Please share your expertise with this newbie! Help!
>>   >Thanks, Chris
>>
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Rob Danielson
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University of Wisconsin- Milwaukee




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