I post this as a new topic, as I guess it is.
There has been some comments about all "hi-tech-talk" on this list.
To some extent I agree with that criticism.
On the other hand I would like to say that there is nothing wrong
with high-tech-talk as long as you mix it with your personal aims!
For example as Tony does below.
Tony, I think you are on the "right" track, here.
To me it is almost a mystery how people can discuss "quality" without
taking into account what the recording is supposed to be used for, like:
mono sound on a background for Discovery Channel,
stereo sound for general public CD's,
documentary for birders, documentary for science,
to be replayed in a hall with slides and lectures,
to be for my own amusement only,
to ...
I'm not sure, but I think I am the one on this list meeting most
various kind of recordists, from the most professional BBC natural
history film-makers to the ones who want to pay as little money as
possible and record for no special reason at all except being able to
replay parts of the excursion they just have made.
All those people are "high-quality-recordists" in the way that they
do what they want to do, strive for their personal needs and make
their own "balance" about money / efforts and results.
95% of all recordists I meet are technically totally ignorant, some
of them even hate sound making, like the film makers, who look upon
sound as a "necessary evil".
But for the purpose they have, they perform excellent results.
So to me, a question like how far spaced two omnis should be is
impossible to answer and must be met by another question: What do you
want it to sound like?
This is my attempt to make a "point" here:
It is WITHOUT this "purpose-discussion" that high-tech-talk seem to
be so meaningless to so many.
Is that a "point"??
Klas.
At 16:49 2007-05-09, you wrote:
>Hi Klas,
>
>I think you just mentioned something very important, how it is replayed.
>
>The playback system had been always my concern when we discuss about liste=
ning
>recordings and when we COMPARE arrays or recordings by ear.
>
>When discussing about recordings or arrays, we should mention how it shoul=
d be
>listened to find to X or Y image. With headphones is easier but with monit=
ors,
>we should use an standard position for the speakers or mention the way we =
are
>listening when we refer to an X image.
>
>Tony Celis
>
>
>
>--- Klas Strandberg <> escribi=F3:
>
> > I have used omnis a lot, with various spacing.
> > It sounds good or better, depending on how you replay it. I think A-B
> > stereo always have to be judged from how it is replayed.
> > I usually recommend A-B stereo to people who are making slide shows,
> > with sound, in big halls.
> > I don't like A-B stereo when using headphones.
> > The open mic recordings at my sound gallery are Blumlein.
> >
> > Klas.
> >
> > At 06:05 2007-05-09, you wrote:
> > >Are any people here using omnis to record nature sounds? And, if so,
> > >what spacings are you using?
> > >
> > >Assuming I wanted to capture a 360 degree scene, like a dawn chorus in
> > >a rainforest, what would you recommend?
> > >
> > >Theory suggests that if I want to capture such a scene, I'd need a
> > >spacing that allows a 180 degree recording angle, and is able to
> > >compress that width into a stereo signal that extends from hard left
> > >to hard right. According to Image Assistant, a spacing between 22cm
> > >and 25cm will do it with minimum angular distortion (only at the
> > >extremes, beyond 75% hard left or right).
> > >
> > >Any thoughts or suggestions from those using omnis for nature
> > >recording would be appreciated.
> > >
> > >- Greg Simmons
> > >
> > >
> > >"Microphones are not ears,
> > >Loudspeakers are not birds,
> > >A listening room is not nature."
> > >Klas Strandberg
> > >Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Telinga Microphones, Botarbo,
> > S-748 96 Tobo, Sweden.
> > Phone & fax int + 295 310 01
> > email:
> > website: www.telinga.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>Antonio Celis-Murillo
>
>
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>"Microphones are not ears,
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>Klas Strandberg
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>
>
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