Thanks Lindsay,
Interesting - I chose this simply to demonstrate my filtering
challenges, but I now understand your yahoo name better ! Can't tell
you bird details - silouhette was all I got, it was on the south
facing face of the Jura immediately north of Nyon, I don't carry a
GPS but could send a map ref if you like. It was one of several I
recorded (and discarded !) that morning. L. curvisrostra is what the
books say we have here, but I have now looked at the sonagrams in
Mark Constantine's excellent book which I aquired a couple of weeks
back and I see what you mean about "phantom". This is virtually my
back yard and it would not be hard for me to collect more recordings
along the Jura (and maybe Alps) if it helps the science (and art!) of
crossbill taxonomy. Contact me off-line and tell me more details, I'd
like some references and to know whom to send any collection to.
Thanks for alerting me to this.
Chris
--- In "Lindsay Cargill"
<> wrote:
>
> Just realized that you recorded this bird in Switzerland, which
> makes Parrot a bit more unlikely, though not impossible,
> and "Phantom" a more likely contender ! This said Ron Summers and
> David Jardine found that many of the Mediterranean Loxia Curvirosta
> sub species complex actually gave Parrot and Scottish calls !
>
> More work needed I think. Could you email me the location and
> further details of this bird. Either way your bird is an excitement
> call D.
>
> Lindsay
>
>
> --- In "Lindsay Cargill"
> <xbills@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In "Chris Hails" <cjhails@>
> > wrote:
> > > I posted 3
> > > recordings of a Crossbill calling from about 20m distance at
the
> > top
> > > of a 15m pine tree (crossbill1 orig.mp3), about half way into
> the
> > > piece comes the aircraft.
> >
> > Nice recording of Crossbill alarm call ! This is Excitement Call
D
> > (EcD) which in Britain is a Parrot Crossbill. Your bird is giving
> a
> > very quick cadence of the
> > alarm and shows some structural similarities with "Phantom
> > Crossbill"
> > ( Constantine, 2006), a type of Common Crossbill apparently.
> >
> > If I heard that on one of my recordings in Deeside, Scotland it
> > would go down as Parrot. Well done - not many recordings of those
> in
> > the public domain from the continent.
> >
> > Hope to get over to Sweden some time myself to compare Swedebills
> > with our "Scottish" Parrots.
> >
> > Ooo I hope this is "on topic" !
> >
> > Lindsay
> >
>
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