Hi! Good to hear from you!
See .doc attachment.
Klas.
At 01:19 2006-11-11, you wrote:
>Klas,
>When you say "..the excellency of the EM158 is when it is 100% in open
>air, no tubes or baffles, behind or in front..," are you suggesting to
>not use the rubber holders they ship with as they are shown at -
>http://www.frogloggers.com/BT%20EM158.htm
>
>Alternatively, how would you suggest mounting them? How about at the
>end of a narrow post?
>
>Today I ordered two elements, and I look forward to experimenting with
>them.
>I'm thinking of mounting them similar to how I mounted the 183s -
>http://www.rockscallop.org/how/183/183mount01.html
>- except the EM158 will be mounted facing forward instead of to the
>side and will be held out from the mounting surface on a stiff wire,
>looking like a little lollypop, in center of the wind screen.
>
>-John Hartog
>
>
>
>--- In "Gene Dorcas"
><> wrote:
> >
> > You're right Klas. The drawing is not representative of the actual mic.
> > I'll try to redraw it as soon as I get a chance. In reality the 158
>is up in
> > the wire mesh past the end of the tube.
> >
> >
> >
> > I make the body here. Its an attempt to keep the cost down because
>so many
> > of my froglogger users have 20+ units in use at a time and really good
> > microphones frequently make the purchase of that many units cost
> > prohibitive.
> >
> >
> >
> > Gene
> >
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From:
> > On Behalf Of Klas Strandberg
> > Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 4:23 PM
> > To:
> > Subject: RE: [Nature Recordists] [gear] Primo EM158's (was Edirol R-09
> > updated review
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Gene!
> >
> > I hope the drawing at your site is a bit awkward, as the excellency
> > of the EM158 is when it is 100% in open air, no tubes or baffles,
> > behind or in front.
> > Who made the microphone body?
> >
> > Klas..
> > .
> >
> > At 18:41 2006-10-25, you wrote:
> > >I have a small qty of EM158s left. I'm in the process of ordering
>another
> > >batch this morning.
> > >
> > >http://www.froglogg <http://www.frogloggers.com/FORMgallery4.htm>
> > ers.com/FORMgallery4.htm
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >There are a few recordings at: http://www.froglogg
> > <http://www.frogloggers.com/Recordings.htm> ers.com/Recordings.htm
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >The last time I was out at night recording frogs I placed a pair of
>158s on
> > >each side of a tree truck and then placed a pair of 183s on the
>same tree
> > >about a foot lower than the 158s. I alternated between the pairs
>recording
> > >into the same RH1 recorder. Just from listening with my Sennheiser
>HD 280
> > >Pro headphones it seemed that the 183s were a little more sensitive
>and the
> > >158s self-noise was a little lower.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Eric is still running tests but he stated a few days ago that it
>appears
> > >that the freq. response of the 158 at the high end is a little
>better than
> > >shown in the Primo spec.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Gene
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >From: naturerecordists@ <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com>
> > yahoogroups.com
> > >[naturerecordists@ <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com>
> > yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rob Danielson
> > >Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 7:30 AM
> > >To: naturerecordists@ <naturerecordists%40yahoogroups.com>
> > yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] [gear] Primo EM158's (was Edirol R-09
> > >updated review
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >At 11:47 AM +0200 10/25/06, Klas Strandberg wrote:
> > > >At 03:45 2006-10-25, you wrote:
> > > >>Leonard Lombardo of Sonic Studios has updated his review of the
>Edirol
> > > >>R-09. Read the review here
> > > >>www.sonicstudios.com/r-09revw.htm
> > > >>
> > > >>Leo found that his DSM microphones would not work properly with the
> > > >>R-09's phantom power, but he found a way to modify the R-09 so
>mic and
> > > >>recorder work together. Price for the mod is $150.
> > > >
> > > >You mean "plug in power".
> > > >
> > > >The Primo EM157
> > >
> > >Do you mean "EM158?" :-)!! Thanks to Gene Dorcas (tip on this list
> > >9/2005) we've been using these caps with HiMD in my field audio class
> > >this Fall. We should have a number of comparison tests to share by
> > >the end of the semester.
> > >
> > > >works very well with the R-09!!
> > > >Its an omni of EXCELLENT sound quality!
> > > >Self noise is quite high, though, I guess around 20 dbA.
> > >
> > >I concur. Eric has some tests that he may be readying for release.
> > >The EM158's seem to be on par with or perhaps a little better
> > >noise-wise than the Shure WL-183's; a tad less sensitive. The 158's
> > >are only ~6mm in diameter-- considerably smaller, less massive and
> > >even easier to mount than 183's.
> > >
> > >I believe Gene has them for sale in several configurations on his
> > >site. I'll wait for Gene to confirm this before I drop his link.
> > >Eric Benjamin plans to test the EM158's powering needs more
> > >carefully. Rob D.
> > >
> > >Klas
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>Leo has posted two recordings of natural ambience made with the
>R-09,
> > > >>the DSM mics, and a Sonic Studios portable preamp. These are pretty
> > > >>large files, so it will take a couple of minutes to download them.
> > > >>
> > > >>http://s117794305. <http://s117794305.>
> <http://s117794305.onlinehome.us/mp3/thunder5.mp3>
> > onlinehome.us/mp3/thunder5.mp3>
> > >onlinehome.us/mp3/thunder5.mp3
> > > >>http://s117794305. <http://s117794305.>
> <http://s117794305.onlinehome.us/mp3/platievg.mp3>
> > onlinehome.us/mp3/platievg.mp3>
> > >onlinehome.us/mp3/platievg.mp3
> > > >>
> > > > >--oryoki
> > >
> > >--
> > >Rob Danielson
> > >Peck School of the Arts
> > >University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
> > >http://www.uwm. <http://www.uwm.>
> <http://www.uwm.edu/~type/audio-art-tech-gallery/>
> > edu/~type/audio-art-tech-gallery/>
> > >edu/~type/audio-art-tech-gallery/
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >"Microphones are not ears,
> > >Loudspeakers are not birds,
> > >A listening room is not nature."
> > >Klas Strandberg
> > >Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Telinga Microphones, Botarbo,
> > S-748 96 Tobo, Sweden.
> > Phone & fax int + 295 310 01
> > email: <telinga%40bahnhof.se> se
> > website: www.telinga.com
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>"Microphones are not ears,
>Loudspeakers are not birds,
>A listening room is not nature."
>Klas Strandberg
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
Telinga Microphones, Botarbo,
S-748 96 Tobo, Sweden.
Phone & fax int + 295 310 01
email:
website: www.telinga.com
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