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Re: edirol r-4 lower price

Subject: Re: edirol r-4 lower price
From: Derek Holzer <>
Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 15:49:51 +0100
Hi Oryoki,

oryoki wrote:

> The Edirol R-1 two channel recorder has decent mic
> pre's. Where did you hear that the R-4's mic pre's
> are problematic?

Check the [Nature Recordists] thread:
"I have an Edirol R4 and now I'm looking for a portable pre"

There, robleshugodaniel reported:

> really, I think the R4=B4s preamplifiers needs an
> external preamplifier. The hiss is clearly noticeable. I have a very
> good studio preamplifier (AC powered) , and I made comparisons with the
> R4 preamplifiers. The R4=B4s noise  with the external pre is clearly
> reduced. In this case, I think, the R4 is usable in quiets ambients.

> When I mention the hiss present in the preamplifiers, it was recording
> in a quiet ambient (nature) Of course, if you record music it is no
> noticeable.

And Dan Dugan wrote:

> I don't thing the R4 necessarily needs external preamps if you have
> hot mics.

There was a long discussion on which portable preamps could be used,
such as RME's QuadMic. This leads me to beleive it is not the best thing
for quiet nature recording.

I've also seen it written up in music taper and sports recording
websites. Funny enough, the recordist who posted the first online review
of the R4 was selling his on EBay several months later. I wrote to ask
why, and he said it was because he found the preamps too hot!

nickspicks wrote:

> selling because I'm not satisfied w/the mic preamps and dont want to run =
a seperate box ahead of it.

I asked if it was a problem of too much noise, or too much gain? I read
in his review (one of the few out there, actually) that it doesn't work
out well in 100db+ environments:

http://www.nickspicks.com/gear-r4.htm

nickspicks replied:

> it will excell in a quiet environment, that is what it is designed for.
> Me, I use it for music recording, and dont find the analog section to be =
audiophile quality (my standards are very high)

So there you have two different stories!

More feedback from folks here might straighten it out a bit.

Best,
derek

--
derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl
---Oblique Strategy # 128:
"Overtly resist change"


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