Very interesting! Thanks Marty. It may be a while before I can afford
two such setups, but you've encouraged me to pursue the idea. I'm
often trying to capture large flocks of Snow Geese or Sandhills at a
pretty good distance - maybe 1/2 - 1 mile? (a typical scenario that
some may know is from Hwy 161 to the middle of Lower Klamath Lake, and
there are closer refuge roads) - flocks large enough to cover perhaps
30 degrees of the field of view. 8x42 binocs get maybe 1/10 of the
flock. How do you think the ME-67 would fare under those
circumstances, keepiong in mind that I would also have along something
like a stereo pair of 183s?=20
Ken
--- In Marty Michener <>
wrote:
>
> At 12:43 AM 11/21/2005, you wrote:
> >Sorry this is probably another oft-dicussed question, but do
> >have experinece with the Sennheiser ME66 vs ME67 shotgun caps for
> >field recording? Any comments welcome. Sennheiser says the long gun
> >is more suitable for instances where the sound source is a long way
> >from the mic, which is the case for me, but I'm wondering if that
> >really is an adavantage for us - if it 's not *too* directional?
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Ken
>
> HI Ken:
>
> I used both types for several years, both singly and crossed to make a
> pseudo-stereo setup. Summary:The ME-67 is NOT too directional. The
ME66 is
> so broad it is very hard to get good field recordings of a lone singer.
>
> If you had two ME-67s to try, as I do, you could make an "X" with them,
> crossing at a point closest to their diaphragms, about 6 cm out from
where
> the K-6 and ME-67 screw together. I seldom use these recordings "as
> stereo"; I do it because of three other reasons: first, recording with
> headphones on, I can find a sound source easily and quickly with my
ears by
> panning and rotating the rig.
>
> http://www.EnjoyBirds.com/howitworks/HowToRig.htm
>
> Experimenting with the "X" arrangement then, one finds that if the mic
> angle is zero, of course, you get the same sound in both channels,
and as
> you increase the angle, you begin to get stereo separation only when
you
> are at 15-20 degrees apart. For field use, as my web shows, I have a
foam
> rig holding them about 30 degrees, where a nice stereo passing
effect is
> achieved as you pan past a sound source in field or forest.
>
> Please note that this pattern is much broader for ME-66's, and much
> narrower for any decent parabolic reflector, where you can pan like
crazy
> and yet take a long time to get it aimed at an unseen singing bird
in the
> puckabrush (I did this for thirty years; never again).
>
> I actually most like the stereo setup for TWO other reasons:
>
> 1. because when a bird sings unexpectedly, you can later use
whichever mic
> did the best job - by accident as so often happens with the rare,
> "single-call-every-week" species I am often chasing. ;^)
> 2. because I can whisper verbal observations in the end of one of
the mics
> while the other is doing a clear job of making the sound record of
the beast.
>
> -- best regards, Marty Michener
> MIST Software Assoc. Inc., P. O. Box 269, Hollis, NH 03049
> http://www.enjoybirds.com/
>
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