At 06:53 AM 11/9/2005, Mr. Connop wrote:
>...
>The email that expressed my frustration was written after reading his
>list message, but my first paragraph mentioned him as list owner and my
>last comment reflects the fact that this discussion should have been
>allowed to continue, and the list owner, of all people, should have
>recognized the way that I was handling the issue. The problem with Mr.
>Dugan's comment is that the discussion was civil and useful and now, he
>is not going to have his wits sharpened, at least, not from my
>perspective, because of a resistance to education from my experience
>with playback.
>
>I have received 4 emails already from folks wishing for me to continue
>in the vein that I started, but the posts have become undermined from
>above, and, without that support, I am wasting my time. If you valued
>the discussion at all, Mr. Dugan, you should write to the moderator. As
>a moderator, you must be well aware of the need to allow for both sides
>of any issue to be discussed, just as long as the posts are information
>based and approached respectfully.
>
>I will stay on list as the information here (as I said before, it all
>has value) is important to me, and I have no interest in trying to make
>a list political statement about leaving it (or cutting off my nose to
>spite my face). I am just very disappointed that the bias against
>playback is so entrenched in some here, that the civil discussion wasn't
>even promoted to continue.
>
>Scott Connop
Against my own best advice, I've decided to respond to Mr. Connop, as follows:
The stated purpose of this list is: "This moderated group is interested in
techniques, issues and general discussion of recording natural sounds.
Topics include, but aren't limited to recording techniques and equipment,
recording venues and discussions of various animal vocalizations and
communication. Other natural sounds, such as water, weather and
wind-generated sounds are valid topics.
Issues related to computerized editing of sounds, copyrights, Internet
applications and commercial uses of files are encouraged."
In promoting that purpose it is sometimes necessary to limit discussions
that, although they may be pertinent or desirable to some, have become
contentious. In the interest of the list's survival as a forum for
discussion of recording natural sound, I recognized that the "playback"
thread has the potential for creating an atmosphere on the list that is not
conducive to civil discussion. As the list owner, I have decided that this
discussion needs to reach an end that all can live with and move on, thus
my suggestion of the code of ethics.
I still feel that further discussion about playback may be valuable and
interesting, but not on this list.
Doug
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Doug Von Gausig
Digitally Recorded Birds Sounds at:
http://naturesongs.com/birds.html
Clarkdale, Central Arizona, USA
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