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RE: Playback and Ethics

Subject: RE: Playback and Ethics
From: "Martyn Stewart" <>
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 12:06:47 -0700
On the contrary, I do not advocate playback in the field.
I take the greenhouse theory as a point; nobody believed early data to be
true, global warming was a theory by so called "mad scientists"
It is too late to stop what is now the inevitable, species are shifting
north, insects are becoming a huge problem to birds and animals because of
increasing warmth, if we all stopped using CSC gasses and emitting
pollutants to the atmosphere it would be a very slow process to correct what
we had 30 years ago. We no longer have the amount of trees on this planet as
say 30 years ago to filter out toxins.
Getting back to playback, when is it needed to tell people that what you are
doing is bad for the health of a species? When it is too late also?
There was the art of "pishing" that was just as effective in the field, now
we have to cart huge speakers and blast away sounds so we can all get a good
look.
Photographers use it also. We as a species are on a self destruct mission;
Bird Watchers in my mind are uneducated to the consequences that lay by....

Let us just agree to disagree and get on with something else appertaining to
nature recording; this is a subject that we will never agree on.......

Martyn

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-----Original Message-----
From: 
 On Behalf Of Chuck B
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2005 11:49 AM
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Subject: Re: [Nature Recordists] Playback and Ethics

Martyn Stewart wrote:

>They all want to use playback in the field, now, is this responsible or
not?
>How do you tell thousands of people to use playback responsibly in the
>field?
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>
    You seem to be allowing that it is possible to be responsible with 
playback. If so, then is it better to keep these people out of the list 
or let them in and convince them to behave responsibly? Access to 
technical information about equipment (or worse, access to flashy 
adverts that sell equipment) is a lot easier to find than discussions of 
this kind. As you say, "There are more gadgets out there than sense."

>Habitat is becoming increasingly diminished and the birds are decreasing in
>numbers. There are more gadgets out there than sense, GPS units to locate
>what a "life lister" has seen so they can post in on a list serve to tell
>others to go out and harass, ATV's to get to the locations, the planet is
>becoming smaller, we are becoming larger than life.
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    But none of this demonstrates whether *playback* is right, wrong, or 
moot. Granting your point that playback causes stress, it's like zoos. 
Zoos take animal prisoners and treat many of them to a life of 
frustration and even neurosis (I can't stand to see polar bears in zoos 
any more). At the same time, zoos expose naive people to animals, and 
more and more zoos are doing good work in breeding endangered species. A 
lot of future voters got their first exposure to 'nature' from their 
kiddy trip to the zoo, and we know how important childhood experience 
can be in your world-view. Etc - it's a long argument. Perhaps on 
balance having zoos is better than not having zoos, and we should all 
work to make zoos as good as they can be.
    Analogies are perilous, but we have to talk about the 'big picture'. 
Tradeoffs. Greater good. Bottom line.

    -- Chuck

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