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Re: Rode & Senn M-S Report

Subject: Re: Rode & Senn M-S Report
From: "Fernando de Izuzquiza" <>
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 17:47:53 -0000
The Schoeps 41+8 would be good as a compromise for dialog... it sounds grea=
t but a
more natural space representantion should be done with a 4+8; using an hype=
rcardioid
can yield a "too cornery" image because of excesive directionality...

Anyhow, worth to test the Schoeps MS rig in three flavors:

4+8
41+8
2+8 (yep, omnis can be used for MS with great results. Nature recording cou=
ld be one of
it's applications...!)

Fernando

P.S. I own two CCM41 and one CCM8 so I can not test it yet. But I may get t=
wo CCM5 wich
are omni/cardioid switchable. A very good option for nature recording. Also=
, the omni will
stand far more wind.




--- In  Tim Nielsen <> wrote:
> AH! Makes sense, I was wondering why the two Rode's would have to be=20
> two feet apart :)
>
> I returned the Earthworks to the guy who loaded them to me, but I'm=20
> planning on doing a test at some point with the following rigs:
>
> Schoeps MS rig with an MK41 Hyper center, MK8 side
> Sennheiser MKH30/40 MS Rig
> Neumann RSM191 MS Mic
> Sanken CSM9 MS Mic
> Neumann 100 MS setup
>
> Scheops CMC XY Setup
> Neuman KM184 XY Setup
>
> These are all the rigs I have access to, and I think I can scrounge=20
> up enough 722's to record all the setups simultaneous, with identical =

> settings. Should be interesting, but not sure when I'll get around to =

> coordinating everyones rigs for a day to do it.
>
> But it would be a good test of coincident stereo.
>
> I've already done such a test with the Neumann 100MS rig, and found=20
> it be a VERY close match to the Schoeps. The neumann's were a tad=20
> more detailed, the Schoeps a tad warmer. Giving the Schoeps about 7db =

> of gain, and high wide boost of about 3dB at 10k or so made them=20
> almost an identical match. My Schoeps rig though has a hyper-cardiod=20
> center, which made the stereo image more focused in the middle, so it =

> picked up slightly different sound. But the Neumann's are great mics, =

> although some people I know who have them are having lots of RF=20
> interference problems where other mics don't seem to.
>
> Tim




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