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Re: Renewed interest

Subject: Re: Renewed interest
From: Walter Knapp <>
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 12:43:08 -0500
From: "Ryan" <>

> 
> 
> I have been a member of this group for some time now, but not very 
> active, with the work situation I haven't had much time for anything 
> else. 
> Way back there was a popular concensus that minidisc recorders were 
> not the best choice for nature recording, for reasons I cannot 
> recall, is this still the popular opinion?
> The reason I brought this up is a few weeks ago I was a farm show and 
> all the radio stations doing their thing used minidisc machines, I 
> asked one of the guys what he was using, he said minidisc, and they 
> used to use DAT, but it didn't work as well as the md. Yes I know 
> there is a major difference in recording human voices in a building 
> and nature recording, two totally different venues.

A few people were very negative toward minidisc, and very vocal. In a 
number of cases they had never made any attempt to use minidisc over a 
season in the field. Minidisc is used by a majority of the group and 
works well. In the inexpensive walkman minidisc's the primary issue is 
the quality of the preamps, they have this in common with the newer 
types of recorders that are priced low. Regardless of what you buy in 
the lower priced end you will deal with this.

DAT is virtually dead. There is no more production of the internal 
mechanisms, they are using up stored stock. And there is only one 
factory still making tape, after another burned down and was not 
replaced. This beyond the trials and tribulations of using tape in 
outdoor environments. In my opinion buying a DAT now as a field recorder 
would be a waste of money.

I use a HHb Portadisc, one of the top field recorders made. It's minidisc.

People have been getting a lesson in what matters in recorders lately. 
Back about the time you talked about there was this opinion that any 
hard disc or solid state recorder was going to be much better than 
minidisc. They turn out to be quite variable as to quality. Some are 
pretty good, like the new offerings from Sound Devices (which if I were 
forced out of minidisc is where I'd go today), but others turned out to 
be equipped with fairly poor preamps, or whatever. Anyway, your choices 
now are minidisc (both regular and HiMD), and some solid state or hard 
disc recorders. Or if you like awkward things not really suited for 
portable field use, some use laptops. Other than minidisc the new crop 
is still in the early stages of shakeout as to what's a good field 
recorder and what is not.

The bottom line is to get your hands on a recorder and get out 
recording. There is plenty of good equipment, experience in the field is 
what is needed for reliably getting good recordings.

Walt




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