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Re: frogs towards extinction?

Subject: Re: frogs towards extinction?
From: "John Hartog" <>
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 03:41:04 -0000
True enough Greg, And now I'll try to make amends for my smartass
remark with an attempt to somehow turn this topic back around to
nature sound recording.
I like recording frog sounds. (That's a start)  I do not know too
much about frogs that are going extinct, but I have heard that
various frogs around the world have shown drastically declining
numbers in recent years. Some say frogs can be good indicator
species, kind of like the canary in the coal mine, and that their
decline can correlate to a decline in overall ecosystem health.   I
don't know how they sort out correlation and cause, but it must be a
fascinating field of work.   I do not know what a nature sound
recordist in Portland Oregon, can do to help with this field of
work.  But if anyone knows of any frog studies going on near here, I
would love to know.
John Hartog


--- In  Gregory Rademacher
<> wrote:
> Like most things... what is said and what is perceived become two
> different things...
> Walt, I didn't take what you said the way Ms Sheehey or Mr Hartog
did.
> So much trouble in the world because of one sided views. We all
want
> the world to run the way we think it should be.
> Ms Sheehey and Mr Hartog ...  I don't personally know Walt Knapp,
but
> have read enough of his correspondence to feel he cares deeply
about
> wetlands and the creatures in it.
> Greg Rademacher
>
> On Monday, October 18, 2004, at 06:47  PM, Ali wrote:
>
> > Walter Knapp wrote:
> > "It might not have happened this way if the environmentalists had
> > not been so eager to ruin=A0 folks who owned wetlands. The
> > wetlands paid a heavy price for the arrogance of environmental
> > activists."
> >
> > John Hartog=A0 wrote:=A0 "Thanks for the wake-up call, Walt:=A0 I
didn't
> > realize
> > environmentalists, like me, are to blame for the devestation of
> > wetlands".=A0
> >
> > Walt, thanks for helping me understand too that it is my fault,
I
> > guess my
> > arrogance is why 98% of the California wetlands no longer exist.
I
> > will tear
> > up my environmentalist card as well, cause I guess arrogance
gets you
> > nowhere unless profit is involved.
> >
> > Alison Sheehey
> >
> >
> >
> > "Microphones are not ears,
> > Loudspeakers are not birds,
> > A listening room is not nature."
> > Klas Strandberg
> >
> >
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