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freq response and aliasing of Edirol FA-101 at 192 kHz

Subject: freq response and aliasing of Edirol FA-101 at 192 kHz
From: Gianni Pavan <>
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 13:01:24 +0200
Hi all,
        I'm testing the new Edirol FA-101 to verify its performances at 96 and 
192 
kHz.
Performances at 96 kHz are as expected, with a flat response up to 42 kHz 
and sharp filtering close to Nyquist.

On the contrary, performances at 192 kHz are really unsatisfactory. The 
unit behaves completely different, with a roll-off that begins at 30 kHz 
and scarcely attenuates beyond the Nyquist frequency. Frequencies above 
Nyquist are poorly attenuated and thus, if they are present in the analog 
signal, they can fold back down to 40 kHz.

Given a sinusoidal input signal of 8Vpp on the LINE INPUT (much less than 
the overload level, of course), by varying frequency I get the following 
response:

30 kHz, 0 dB (arbitrary)
36 kHz, -0.14
39 kHz, -0.22
42 kHz, -0.325
45 kHz, -0.46
48 kHz, -0.64
51 kHz, -0.885
54 kHz, -1.22
57 kHz, -1.66
60 kHz, -2.23
63 kHz, -2.955
66 kHz, -3.85
69 kHz, -4.95
72 kHz, -6.28
75 kHz, -7,87
78 kHz, -9.77
81 kHz, -12.065
84 kHz, -14.855
87 kHz, -18.355
90 kHz, -23.03
93 kHz, -30.375
94 kHz, -34.45
95 kHz, -41.0
96 kHz - difficult to measure

and now, by increasing the input frequency beyond Nyquist, I get the 
following values for "aliased frequencies":

(real input freq -> aliased freq, level of aliased freq vs input level)
97 -> 95 kHz, -42.0
98 -> 94 kHz, -36.5
99 -> 93 kHz, -33.485
102 -> 90 kHz, -29.25
105 -> 87 kHz, -27.7
108 -> 84 kHz, -27.35
111 -> 81 kHz, -27.75
114 -> 78 kHz, -28.7
117 -> 75 kHz, -30.07
120 -> 72 kHz, -31.82
123 -> 69 kHz, -33.92
126 -> 66 kHz, -36.34
129 -> 63 kHz, -39.08
132 -> 60 kHz, -42.18
135 -> 57 kHz, -45.58
138 -> 54 kHz, -49.3
141 -> 51 kHz, -53.5
144 -> 48 kHz, -58.3
147 -> 45 kHz, -63.8

By the way, I tested the LynxTwo PCI boards that exhibits very sharp 
filters and flat bandwidth up to 90 kHz!

Now I wonder about the performances of the relatively cheap hard-disc 
recorders now available, in particular the Fostex FR2: is there somebody 
able to test their performance with ultrasonic signals like I did with the 
FA101 ?

Gianni
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Gianni Pavan
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Centro Interdisciplinare di Bioacustica e Ricerche Ambientali
Universita' degli Studi di Pavia
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