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Re: Stereo Parabolic recordings

Subject: Re: Stereo Parabolic recordings
From: "Rich Peet" <>
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 19:25:04 -0000
By my ears it appears that you run a partition between the two mkh-
20's, correct?

Rich

--- In  Lang Elliott <> 
wrote:
> Re: Stereo Parbolic recording
> 
> I've been doing lots of recording using my custom stereo Telinga 
MKH20
> setup. Go to the address below to listen to a recording I made 
last weekend.
> It features a Rose-breasted Grosbeak plus the sounds of some other 
animals,
> big critters of some sort. Maybe someone in this group can tell me 
what
> creature so rudely interrupted my grosbeak recording. Be sure to 
listen
> using headphones so that you can fully appreciate the marvelous 
stereo
> effect:
> 
> http://www.naturesound.com/mp3/rbgroby.mp3
> 
> Studying the waveforms of my various stereo parabolic recordings 
on the
> computer, I've discovered the following important fact. Unless the 
target
> bird is exactly focused, with the bird's song being identical 
amplitude in
> both channels, there is often a resultant phase difference between 
channels.
> This occurs even when the target bird is "slightly" off-axis.
> 
> This can cause major problems when one desires a monaural 
recording and sums
> the two channels to obtain it. Phase cancellations then reduce the 
amplitude
> of the target bird's song, and may also result in other anomalies. 
For this
> reason, it is not a good idea to mix the two channels to monaural. 
It is
> better to choose the channel where the target bird is the loudest 
and use it
> as your monaural source.
> 
> This negates my earlier conclusion that the stereo parabolic setup 
produces
> a monaural recording superior to that of a monaural parabola. This 
is true
> in theory, but only if the target bird is perfectly focused and 
there is no
> phase variation between the two channels. In actuality, it turns 
out that
> this is rarely the case, unless the target bird is in direct view 
and
> focusing becomes foolproof. When the bird is not seen and one 
focuses the
> parabola "by ear", it seems to be the norm that it will end up 
slightly off
> axis, with phase differences evident.
> 
> It follows that if one chooses the loudest channel in a stereo 
parabolic
> recording to produce a monaural version, then this will produce a 
result
> that is somewhat inferior to that produced by a monaural parabolic 
setup. I
> haven't tested this in a controlled situation, but I expect that 
using only
> one channel will result in a loss of signal-to-noise of 3-5 db or 
so. Maybe
> one of you tech-heads can tell me what would be expected in theory.
> 
> I expect that the Telinga Stereo DAT mike exhibits the same 
behavior as my
> custom setup. A quick preliminary test revealed that this is 
indeed the case
> (I noticed similar phase differences between channels).
> 
> In spite of this potential "problem", I am totally sold on stereo 
parabolic
> recording. If you listen to the mp3 I've posted, using headphones, 
then
> you'll hear why. The listening experience is far more pleasurable 
that one
> has with mono. Off axis sounds come from their proper directions 
and the
> sense of spaciousness is superb. Listening at home becomes a real 
joy, and
> monitoring while recording in the field is much more exciting.
> 
> Lang



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