>From: Tim Gray <>
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>> My question is twofold. First, for running an M/S pair of Schoeps
>> (or Senn MKH's), can you get by in the mono rycote screen with a double
>> mic clip, and if you can, is it advisable or is it completely
>> unsuitable? Second, for those of you running the Senn MKH's in M/S
>> (which seems to be the mic of choice in this field), is the Sennheiser
>> blimp "better" than the Rycote system? These things seem expensive to
>> me and I want to make sure I get the best one for my needs.
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>Sennheiser's tend to be the mic of choice because of their extreme
>durability out in the outdoors. They have a long track record. There may
>be others, but they are certainly not known as well. And, of course, the
>sennheiser's are excellent mics as well.
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>I run M/S in mono suspensions/zeppelans, but the current rycote won't do
>it, at least with MKH. The rycote uses a full ring suspension, and there
>is just not enough room for the combo in regular dual clips without risk
>of them hitting the ring. You would have to custom machine a clip system
>that put the mics practically touching. I have a rycote modular mono
>suspension, and studied it to death trying to figure how to work it.
Hmmmm. My Rykotes hold both the MKH30 and 40 in the ring and the
zeppelin, Walt. With room to spare and no contact with the ring. I'll
be happy to send you pix if you'd like. I've got three identical
systems and they work fine. The problem I have with Sennheiser covers
is that they're hard to disassemble and put back together in the
field because of the way they're threaded...something the company is
working on.
Bernie
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>However, the Sennheiser suspension is different. it's a heavier ring,
>but it's open on the top, so you have more room. Two MKH in regular dual
>rycote clips will fit with no special effort. I cannot speak about the
>Schoeps, I don't have any to try.
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>I prefer the Sennheiser over Rycote for another reason. The Rycote
>zeppelin is much more delicate than the Sennheiser. When getting them
>off ebay used rycotes would often arrive with cracks in the mesh or
>frame, no Sennheiser I got ever had a crack. Note with a fine soldering
>iron tip you can plastic weld such cracks back together, but it's very
>tedious work. And does not come out looking pretty.
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>I also consider the Sennheiser easier to assemble. The heavy track slips
>into the slot in the zeppelin easier and smoother than rycote's multi
>piece track system. And the locking cams are easy to operate compared to
>locking screws. The end cap does screw on, which can be a little more
>problematic than rycote's twist lock. A very thin coat of silicone
>grease on the threads helps a whole lot.
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>You can see my MKH-40/30 and MKH-60/30 M/S with rycote clips and
>sennheiser suspension here:
>http://frogrecordist.home.mindspring.com/docs/my_ms_setups.html
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>The top mic (MKH-30) in each case appears too high, but actually clears
>the inside of the zeppelin by a fair amount. The rings are smaller
>diameter than the inside. I've not found that to be a problem. I usually
>use covers over the mics, currently baby socks, for a extra layer of
>protection and that clears too. It would be possible to lower the mics
>by modifying the oring arrangement, I'm just mounting the mid mic using
>the regular arrangement and piggybacking the side on that. If you study
>the photos carefully, you will see that the dual clip just clips the two
>mics together. Recently I reassembled the MKH-40/30 with the 40 on top.
>Can't tell any difference in the sound.
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>Farther down the page you can see the pair of MKH-80's running M/S in a
>rycote stereo setup. The 80's are larger diameter, harder to fit in the
>mono, and I happened to get the rycote first off ebay. The thing is the
>size of a small watermelon, far more bulky than the mono at 6" diameter.
>I believe there is a intermediate size too, not sure on that. The
>MKH-80's present another problem as they are side mics. The handle is
>not designed with side mics in mind. I'll do something about it
>eventually. It's usable as it stands.
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>Note make sure to keep threads lubed on these things. I got a big box of
>parts off ebay that were bad in one way or another. Most common thing
>was frozen threads. I've been able to salvage quite a few pieces with my
>machine tools.
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>For close in recording of things like the Cicada's you might also
>consider the modified SASS:
>http://frogrecordist.home.mindspring.com/docs/my_mod_sass.html
>It's excellent for widefield stereo.
>
>Walt
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>Loudspeakers are not birds,
>A listening room is not nature."
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